Are Ents immortal?

ArwenEvenstar · 01-01-2003, 05:04 PM

Are ents immortal or do they just have really long lives?

Varda Oiolosseo · 01-01-2003, 05:29 PM

I've never really thought about that before!

I have a book called A Guide To Tolkein and it describes the Ents as having "almost immortal lives"

then it goes on to say "...though Ents could not die in the manner of Men, through age, they became a dwindling race none the less. They were never numerous, and some were slain with steel and fire, and no new Entings came after the departure of the Entwives."

samwiselvr2008 · 01-01-2003, 05:48 PM

Elves could be slain, and could not die of old age, and they were imortal, so why arn't ents?

Sween · 01-01-2003, 06:57 PM

think of ents as a tree (which techincally they are) given the right conditions and avoiding diease they can theorecally live forever

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-01-2003, 07:06 PM

Not a tree, a tree-herder.

samwiselvr2008 · 01-01-2003, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sween
think of ents as a tree (which techincally they are) given the right conditions and avoiding diease they can theorecally live forever

I geuss that that makes sence, Elves can't die from diesesses. What can a tree get?

Aragorn_iz_cool · 01-01-2003, 07:53 PM

They can't die, but they can become "treeish" and simply stop talking and moving around. Treebeard explains this to Merry and Pip in TTT.

Attalus · 01-01-2003, 08:37 PM

I think that they were very similar to elves in that they can be wounded or killed, but are not subject to disease. There is no Dutch Ent Disease.

Diaxion · 01-02-2003, 03:43 AM

Well in a way they are immortal because they have lived for such a long time, but the Ents are the last of their king becuase there are no girl ents.

BeardofPants · 01-02-2003, 07:21 AM

Trees don't live forever, they have limited life spans as well.

Falagar · 01-02-2003, 07:24 AM

...and this thread brings us to another question: where do the Ents go when they're slain? Aman?

Lady of Rohan · 01-02-2003, 10:59 AM

I think they just rot into the ground like other tree's but I'm not sure.

samwiselvr2008 · 01-02-2003, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Tree's don't live forever, they have limited life spans as well.

Wher dose it say that?

BeardofPants · 01-02-2003, 04:02 PM

Do a google search. The information is freely available.

Artanis · 01-02-2003, 04:06 PM

Follow-up on Falagar's question: Are Ents spiritual creatures? I like to think they are, but if not, they would simply cease to excist when they're dead.

markedel · 01-02-2003, 04:09 PM

Elves seem to be much like elves-immortal but bound to Arda, and limited in their physical existance. They fade during the 4th age. See of Aule and Yvanna in the Silmarillion.

Falagar · 01-02-2003, 05:29 PM

You mean Ents?

WallRocker · 01-02-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Aragorn_iz_cool
They can't die, but they can become "treeish" and simply stop talking and moving around. Treebeard explains this to Merry and Pip in TTT.

Also, Treebeard tlaks about the trees 'dying' on the inside, not actually dying as in not exsisting, but as in becoming dark and rotton, like the Old Forest. So, if Ents can become 'treeish' couldn't they also 'die' like other trees in ME could 'die'? I think so.

SiriCerasi · 01-03-2003, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aragorn_iz_cool
They can't die, but they can become "treeish" and simply stop talking and moving around. Treebeard explains this to Merry and Pip in TTT.

But trees can die, so once they become treeish they should be mortal

Attalus · 01-03-2003, 04:11 PM

Well, several Ents died and were wounded at the Seige of Isengard. But their lifespans were not curtailed like mortals.

01-01-2003, 05:04 PM	#1
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	Are Ents immortal? Are ents immortal or do they just have really long lives? __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

01-01-2003, 05:48 PM	#3
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	Elves could be slain, and could not die of old age, and they were imortal, so why arn't ents? __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-01-2003, 06:57 PM	#4
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	think of ents as a tree (which techincally they are) given the right conditions and avoiding diease they can theorecally live forever __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

01-01-2003, 07:06 PM	#5
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Not a tree, a tree-herder. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-01-2003, 08:37 PM	#8
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	I think that they were very similar to elves in that they can be wounded or killed, but are not subject to disease. There is no Dutch Ent Disease. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

01-01-2003, 05:29 PM	#2
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	I've never really thought about that before! I have a book called A Guide To Tolkein and it describes the Ents as having "almost immortal lives" then it goes on to say "...though Ents could not die in the manner of Men, through age, they became a dwindling race none the less. They were never numerous, and some were slain with steel and fire, and no new Entings came after the departure of the Entwives."

01-01-2003, 07:53 PM	#7
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	They can't die, but they can become "treeish" and simply stop talking and moving around. Treebeard explains this to Merry and Pip in TTT.

01-02-2003, 03:43 AM	#9
Diaxion Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 112	Well in a way they are immortal because they have lived for such a long time, but the Ents are the last of their king becuase there are no girl ents. __________________ good day

01-02-2003, 07:21 AM	#10
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Trees don't live forever, they have limited life spans as well. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 01-02-2003 at 05:03 PM.

01-02-2003, 07:24 AM	#11
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	...and this thread brings us to another question: where do the Ents go when they're slain? Aman? __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

01-02-2003, 10:59 AM	#12
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	I think they just rot into the ground like other tree's but I'm not sure.

01-02-2003, 04:02 PM	#14
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Do a google search. The information is freely available. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

01-02-2003, 04:06 PM	#15
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Follow-up on Falagar's question: Are Ents spiritual creatures? I like to think they are, but if not, they would simply cease to excist when they're dead. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die. Last edited by Artanis : 01-02-2003 at 04:07 PM.

01-02-2003, 04:09 PM	#16
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Elves seem to be much like elves-immortal but bound to Arda, and limited in their physical existance. They fade during the 4th age. See of Aule and Yvanna in the Silmarillion. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

01-02-2003, 05:29 PM	#17
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	You mean Ents? __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 01-02-2003 at 05:35 PM.

01-03-2003, 04:11 PM	#20
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	Well, several Ents died and were wounded at the Seige of Isengard. But their lifespans were not curtailed like mortals. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

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