Commonwealth(?) Games

viggosbeard · 07-26-2002, 10:16 AM

Commonwealth games have just started - when did Mozambique become part of the commonwealth ? also this word 'commonwealth' - bit of a misnomer really isnt it. Isnt it about time we british face upto the fact that the commonwealth was not about sharing but about empire building and subjugation - we should be lamenting the fact not celebrating it.

Draken · 07-26-2002, 11:16 AM

I suppose that's why it's called Commonwealth Games now - it used to be the Empire Games. Looks more like the pub league of international sport to me. And no rugby league - just rah rah sevens. Waste of time!

Grumble over!

Sween · 07-26-2002, 11:17 AM

i dunno it wasnt all bad on our behalf. sure we did rule over them for a time. But we brough stability to a lot of these areas and when it came time to hand them back we did.

I dont think the commonwealth (formally the british empire) really begrudge us.

On another matter my friend from here in cockermouth is swimming for the ilse of man on the 3oth so if u cheer on emily nixon it will be cool she swims on the 30th

sun-star · 07-26-2002, 02:13 PM

If countries don't want to be part of the Commonwealth, surely they can leave? We're not forcing them to be a part of it. Presumably they benefit in some ways too (although I can't think what that would be, apart from trade.)

cassiopeia · 07-26-2002, 11:49 PM

The British did well didn't they? Anyway, Australia is going to win the most gold. Go Thorpey!! Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!

viggosbeard · 07-27-2002, 03:35 AM

Cassiopeia - do you think the reason we have the com games is so the english can win some medals ? Anyway Thorpey should be banned , hes got flippers instead of feet , no wonder he wins all the time !

sween / sunstar I agree that the games are now a trade thing and to a certain extent im sure a lot of countries are in it because it is actually to do with the commonwealth. I just think its a bit of a moral dilema for me, I abhor violence ( except when aragorn is kickin butt ) and hate the idea of bullying etc, and that im afraid is my idea of the british empire. ok some good things have come of it obviously ,as in our relationship with the likes of the aussies ( we like them so much we even ley them beat us at rugby- yes Draken i had to mention that, i hope you were suitably embarassed last week ! ) and the kiwis ( as above - do you see the pattern of our ggod will to our cousins !! ), but i do feel ashamed of the empire thing.Maybe if the name were changed to something like the american ' goodwill games ' I would be a bit happier.

come on emily nixon - go girl !
Lets all support emily on the 30th - closest thing we will probably get to a mooter being famous !

Sween · 07-27-2002, 08:09 AM

i dont think its really a trade thing its really just sumthing to do. Its nice that u abore violence but im proud of the British empire i firmly believe that we did a good job. we set up a lot of things for these countries. places like australia like us more because we didnt really conqure them (allthought the natavives may disagree) we just populated them and in time them have become independant.

Places like india we had good trade with i dont think we ruled any of them with a iron fist. the british empire was in the latter part of last centry i think we were well behaved and quite welcomed.

I see it as a much less violent roman take over. Probably didnt like it at first but after that we got a lot of benifits. and dont forget we handed them their teritorys back without a fuss.

BeardofPants · 07-27-2002, 09:02 AM

Australia probably WILL win all the commonwealth golds! Blasted cheats!

However, I am in the know that Ol' thorpey is gay - can you see the scandalous headlines now?

Errrr. *Attempts to drum up some enthusiasm for NZ atheletes.* Go... erm... Kiwis!

Sween · 07-27-2002, 09:06 AM

and what pray tell is scandelous about been gay?

BeardofPants · 07-27-2002, 09:07 AM

I was being sardonic. Absolutely nothing is scandalous about being gay - do stop being so PC.

Sween · 07-27-2002, 09:09 AM

well i dont know what sardonic means but i will attempt to stop been so pc. now wheres my woman with my food?

BeardofPants · 07-27-2002, 09:11 AM

It's eggs, man, eggs! Cook me some eggs, woman!

And sardonic means to cynically mock. Learn something new everyday.

I hope NZ doesn't disgrace themselves this time!!

Sween · 07-27-2002, 09:22 AM

oh come on beard turn that frown upside down. im sure u will win summet. where in new zeland do you live my mate emigrated there last year to browney bay.

BeardofPants · 07-27-2002, 09:28 AM

I have no earthly idea where Browney bay is.

But then I'm a "JAFA" - Just Another F***ing Aucklander - we're ignorant of these things.

Oh I'm sure we'll win SOMETHING - I'm just annoyed that our govt doesn't put more money into atheletes. Every games we get arse whalloped by the Aussies cos they have tonnes of money pumped into their sports, and we continually suck.

Ah well. I'll just have to abscond somewhere where they do better at sports.

Sween · 07-27-2002, 09:31 AM

Does the ozzie government spend money on anything but sport? Seriously do people acctually have jobs in australia?

eowyn144 · 07-27-2002, 12:46 PM

i don't know much about australia, i've never been to austarlia, i'm probably never going to go to australia, but i do know one thing about australia- their gymnasts are pretty darn good!
shame that, england had a really good squad this year

sun-star · 07-27-2002, 03:06 PM

Oh well, at least America can't win anything

Sween · 07-27-2002, 03:11 PM

anything that america is njot invited to is ok with me. Hated watching the Atlanta games and constally hearing USA USA

BeardofPants · 07-27-2002, 06:48 PM

Yeah, they need to reinvent their chant!

The World Cup was pretty annoying for that reason...

cassiopeia · 07-28-2002, 01:08 AM

I made my first comment in regard to how far the British influenced the world. I think that Canada and England are beating us

but wait till the swimming! Regarding Ian Thorpe, did you know he does this show here called Undercover Angels? He is like Charlie (in Charlies angels) and these 3 girls go out and help people with thier problems.

I don't think we are that good at gymnastics, we are way behind China, USA and Russia. We have the Institute of sport in Canberra which most atheletes go and train, so we spend a fair bit of money on sport. That is why we are so good.

I just found out that my cousin is in the Commonwealth games. She is in the shooting. Not that I really approve of shooting, but, oh well, I hope she does well,

07-26-2002, 10:16 AM	#1
viggosbeard Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey Posts: 247	Commonwealth(?) Games Commonwealth games have just started - when did Mozambique become part of the commonwealth ? also this word 'commonwealth' - bit of a misnomer really isnt it. Isnt it about time we british face upto the fact that the commonwealth was not about sharing but about empire building and subjugation - we should be lamenting the fact not celebrating it. __________________ You cant resist her Shes in your bones Shes in your marrow And your ride home You cant avoid her Shes in the air In between molecules Of Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide Only in dreams

07-26-2002, 11:16 AM	#2
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	I suppose that's why it's called Commonwealth Games now - it used to be the Empire Games. Looks more like the pub league of international sport to me. And no rugby league - just rah rah sevens. Waste of time! Grumble over! __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

07-26-2002, 11:17 AM	#3
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	i dunno it wasnt all bad on our behalf. sure we did rule over them for a time. But we brough stability to a lot of these areas and when it came time to hand them back we did. I dont think the commonwealth (formally the british empire) really begrudge us. On another matter my friend from here in cockermouth is swimming for the ilse of man on the 3oth so if u cheer on emily nixon it will be cool she swims on the 30th __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-26-2002, 02:13 PM	#4
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	If countries don't want to be part of the Commonwealth, surely they can leave? We're not forcing them to be a part of it. Presumably they benefit in some ways too (although I can't think what that would be, apart from trade.) __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

07-26-2002, 11:49 PM	#5
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	The British did well didn't they? Anyway, Australia is going to win the most gold. Go Thorpey!! Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi! __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

07-27-2002, 03:35 AM	#6
viggosbeard Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey Posts: 247	Cassiopeia - do you think the reason we have the com games is so the english can win some medals ? Anyway Thorpey should be banned , hes got flippers instead of feet , no wonder he wins all the time ! sween / sunstar I agree that the games are now a trade thing and to a certain extent im sure a lot of countries are in it because it is actually to do with the commonwealth. I just think its a bit of a moral dilema for me, I abhor violence ( except when aragorn is kickin butt ) and hate the idea of bullying etc, and that im afraid is my idea of the british empire. ok some good things have come of it obviously ,as in our relationship with the likes of the aussies ( we like them so much we even ley them beat us at rugby- yes Draken i had to mention that, i hope you were suitably embarassed last week ! ) and the kiwis ( as above - do you see the pattern of our ggod will to our cousins !! ), but i do feel ashamed of the empire thing.Maybe if the name were changed to something like the american ' goodwill games ' I would be a bit happier. come on emily nixon - go girl ! Lets all support emily on the 30th - closest thing we will probably get to a mooter being famous ! __________________ You cant resist her Shes in your bones Shes in your marrow And your ride home You cant avoid her Shes in the air In between molecules Of Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide Only in dreams

07-27-2002, 08:09 AM	#7
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	i dont think its really a trade thing its really just sumthing to do. Its nice that u abore violence but im proud of the British empire i firmly believe that we did a good job. we set up a lot of things for these countries. places like australia like us more because we didnt really conqure them (allthought the natavives may disagree) we just populated them and in time them have become independant. Places like india we had good trade with i dont think we ruled any of them with a iron fist. the british empire was in the latter part of last centry i think we were well behaved and quite welcomed. I see it as a much less violent roman take over. Probably didnt like it at first but after that we got a lot of benifits. and dont forget we handed them their teritorys back without a fuss. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-27-2002, 09:02 AM	#8
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Australia probably WILL win all the commonwealth golds! Blasted cheats! However, I am in the know that Ol' thorpey is gay - can you see the scandalous headlines now? Errrr. Attempts to drum up some enthusiasm for NZ atheletes. Go... erm... Kiwis! __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-27-2002, 09:06 AM	#9
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	and what pray tell is scandelous about been gay? __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-27-2002, 09:07 AM	#10
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I was being sardonic. Absolutely nothing is scandalous about being gay - do stop being so PC. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-27-2002, 09:09 AM	#11
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	well i dont know what sardonic means but i will attempt to stop been so pc. now wheres my woman with my food? __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-27-2002, 09:11 AM	#12
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	It's eggs, man, eggs! Cook me some eggs, woman! And sardonic means to cynically mock. Learn something new everyday. I hope NZ doesn't disgrace themselves this time!! __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-27-2002, 09:22 AM	#13
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	oh come on beard turn that frown upside down. im sure u will win summet. where in new zeland do you live my mate emigrated there last year to browney bay. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-27-2002, 09:28 AM	#14
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I have no earthly idea where Browney bay is. But then I'm a "JAFA" - Just Another F***ing Aucklander - we're ignorant of these things. Oh I'm sure we'll win SOMETHING - I'm just annoyed that our govt doesn't put more money into atheletes. Every games we get arse whalloped by the Aussies cos they have tonnes of money pumped into their sports, and we continually suck. Ah well. I'll just have to abscond somewhere where they do better at sports. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-27-2002, 09:31 AM	#15
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Does the ozzie government spend money on anything but sport? Seriously do people acctually have jobs in australia? __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-27-2002, 12:46 PM	#16
eowyn144 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 435	i don't know much about australia, i've never been to austarlia, i'm probably never going to go to australia, but i do know one thing about australia- their gymnasts are pretty darn good! shame that, england had a really good squad this year __________________ If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe

07-27-2002, 03:06 PM	#17
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	Oh well, at least America can't win anything __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

07-27-2002, 03:11 PM	#18
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	anything that america is njot invited to is ok with me. Hated watching the Atlanta games and constally hearing USA USA __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

07-27-2002, 06:48 PM	#19
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yeah, they need to reinvent their chant! The World Cup was pretty annoying for that reason... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-28-2002, 01:08 AM	#20
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I made my first comment in regard to how far the British influenced the world. I think that Canada and England are beating us but wait till the swimming! Regarding Ian Thorpe, did you know he does this show here called Undercover Angels? He is like Charlie (in Charlies angels) and these 3 girls go out and help people with thier problems. I don't think we are that good at gymnastics, we are way behind China, USA and Russia. We have the Institute of sport in Canberra which most atheletes go and train, so we spend a fair bit of money on sport. That is why we are so good. I just found out that my cousin is in the Commonwealth games. She is in the shooting. Not that I really approve of shooting, but, oh well, I hope she does well, __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

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