A Pic! A Pic! A Very Important Pic!

Nibs · 02-22-2002, 04:51 PM

Dang! I should have seen this coming! The folks who are making the LotR action figures decided the answer to whether or not the Balrogs have wings.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/324456p1.html

Go down to the bottom. Gandalf looks spiffy, though.

Feraway Hawkbriar · 02-22-2002, 04:59 PM

AHAH! see?! see!? see?! I KNEW they had wings. looks for the muscle in the lower left hand corner I says but noooooooo noone listens to me. anbd LO AND BEHOLD: THE WINGS!

Comic Book Guy · 02-22-2002, 05:00 PM

Its not as if its canon.

Laurelyn · 02-22-2002, 05:08 PM

I have always believed that Balrogs have wings. However, I think this proves nothing. JUst b/c PJ and the CGI folk created a winged balrog in the movie and just because toy companies make figures looking like the movie Balrog, doesn't mean i actually has wings. PJ and them could've just randomly said, "its got wings."

Nibs · 02-22-2002, 05:10 PM

Hmm... why did it get moved? Oh, well... mods know best, I guess...

No, it's not canon, but it's more evidence against those of us who swear they don't have wings.

As a sworn entmooter and current elven warrior, I felt it was my duty to bring forward any evidence supporting whichever side, even if it opposed my own view.

By the way, they're wrong, too. No wings. Nope, nope, nope. They're LYING.

Watch where you're pointing that goiter.

***Earniel*** · 02-22-2002, 05:13 PM

It doesn't really matter to me whether they make him have wings or not. We'll never know for sure and that's that. But I have to admit, those wings kinda suit him....

Feraway Hawkbriar · 02-22-2002, 05:17 PM

I never said anything about TOLKIEN's vision of them or how they were in the books, I'm strictly talking about the one in the MOVIE. that lil action figure guy thingy proves that the one in the MOVIE had wings.

Comic Book Guy · 02-22-2002, 05:33 PM

It was moved because it was in the wrong thread, this is the place to discuss topics relating to Peter Jackson Movie.

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No, it's not canon, but it's more evidence against those of us who swear they don't have wings.

As a sworn entmooter and current elven warrior, I felt it was my duty to bring forward any evidence supporting whichever side, even if it opposed my own view.

You have just contradicted yourself by agreeing its not canon, it is not evidence, its a interpretation of a character by a third-party company, making it 100% unofficial.

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AHAH! see?! see!? see?! I KNEW they had wings. looks for the muscle in the lower left hand corner I says but noooooooo noone listens to me. anbd LO AND BEHOLD: THE WINGS!

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I never said anything about TOLKIEN's vision of them or how they were in the books, I'm strictly talking about the one in the MOVIE. that lil action figure guy thingy proves that the one in the MOVIE had wings.

In your first post, you make a 'Victory' statement, seeming as if you were right all along about the inconclusive Balrog wings debate from the actual text, your second post states that you were refering to the Movie adaption of the Balrog, it has been no mystery that the Movie Balrog had wings or not since its first screening in the Cannes Movie Ceremony.

LuthienTinuviel · 02-22-2002, 05:34 PM

you can see the wings in the movie.

they are hard to see, but when he (he or a she?) moves them, it's pretty clear and they look quite nice.
good CGI bit.

on a side note, cause im too lazy to wait for my brontosaurus computer to load pages, feraway, are you going to give your permission to aldesign for the fellowship of the message board soon? im DYING to se that site

Nibs · 02-22-2002, 05:55 PM

Wait a second... do I see logic seeping into this thread? I'll have none of it!!

Oh, by the way, didn't I sound sarcastic enough when I was saying the "sworn entmooter" bit? I mean, come on... "sworn entmooter"? And "my duty"?? It's so ludicrous I refuse to address it further

.

Anyway, I was just bringing it up... of course the products of a third party don't affect how it is portrayed in the books and even less how we think it is... we're still divided on that issue.

Gosh, it all started innocently enough... I just thought it was a pic that people would enjoy seeing.

I'm going to my room now.

Feraway Hawkbriar · 02-22-2002, 06:29 PM

Comic Book Guy- Eh? ohhh, well [lets just use another word from now on - CBG], my mistake then. See, the way alot of conversation was going it seemed to me that people didnt beleive the MOVIE balrog had wings but it was so blatently obvious that it DID have wings so thats what the little "victory" thingy was about, finally solid proof of it...I misunderstood and didnt realize the wings/no wings debate was entirly over the book versions. Oh well, whatever.

Luthien Tinuviel- I could have sworn I've already sent him a PM regaurding that.

Rána Eressëa · 02-22-2002, 06:30 PM

Heh heh...stop picking on Nibs, y'all

I think it's cool - especially the Gandalf figure.

Nibs · 02-22-2002, 07:15 PM

I'm still not coming out of my room.

aldesign · 02-22-2002, 07:41 PM

figures are great.

nice wings,

Gandalf is now my Desktop Bckgrd

Evenstar · 02-22-2002, 08:43 PM

I didn't see any wings on the Balrog!! Damn....colour me stupid!!!

LuthienTinuviel · 02-22-2002, 09:08 PM

sorry if i sounded pushy or nosy feraway
BUT IM DYING OVER HERE!

i can't even find the other post that it originated form

this will prolly get deleted or closed, so i just hope you see it before then

and once again, i would have sent ya a PM, but my computer takes five whole minutes to load the "post a reply" screen" and almost ten to open up the main board.
this takes up much less time and usues much less frustartion.

oh yea.. hmm on topic, must be on topic...

uhh.. *drools, while staring blankly at screen*
oh yes! wings. uh huh. i thought that the wings were very nice
and that the balrog looked just like my vision of a 7story 5 finned iridecent black albino killer sea monkey attacking an underground... uh city thing..

..........god, im dumb..........

FrodoFriend · 02-22-2002, 11:00 PM

Gandalf is cool . . .

But WINGS?!! Never!! And where's the shadow and flame???

LuthienTinuviel · 02-22-2002, 11:10 PM

hmmm shadow, flame, daeth destruction... good thing to have for a toy.

yea, hand those lil playthings out for halloween, eh?

Radagast · 02-23-2002, 06:14 AM

I've always thought Balrogs had wings.

Arathorn · 02-23-2002, 06:45 AM

Regardless of whether or not I think Balrogs have wings, The one's on this toy are simply too small for it compared to those depicted on the movie. The figure's also too brightly colored IMO.

The Gandalf figure looks good.

And BTW, I guess its ok if Nibs stays in his room because his PC (or Mac, or whatever) seems to be in there.

02-22-2002, 04:51 PM	#1
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	A Pic! A Pic! A Very Important Pic! Dang! I should have seen this coming! The folks who are making the LotR action figures decided the answer to whether or not the Balrogs have wings. http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/324456p1.html Go down to the bottom. Gandalf looks spiffy, though. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-22-2002, 04:59 PM	#2
Feraway Hawkbriar Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 348	Re: A Pic! A Pic! A Very Important Pic! AHAH! see?! see!? see?! I KNEW they had wings. looks for the muscle in the lower left hand corner I says but noooooooo noone listens to me. anbd LO AND BEHOLD: THE WINGS! __________________ "The barks goes ever on and on out from the dog where they began. He's out there crapping on my lawn. Till I hit him with my van."

02-22-2002, 05:08 PM	#4
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	I have always believed that Balrogs have wings. However, I think this proves nothing. JUst b/c PJ and the CGI folk created a winged balrog in the movie and just because toy companies make figures looking like the movie Balrog, doesn't mean i actually has wings. PJ and them could've just randomly said, "its got wings." __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-22-2002, 05:10 PM	#5
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Hmm... why did it get moved? Oh, well... mods know best, I guess... No, it's not canon, but it's more evidence against those of us who swear they don't have wings. As a sworn entmooter and current elven warrior, I felt it was my duty to bring forward any evidence supporting whichever side, even if it opposed my own view. By the way, they're wrong, too. No wings. Nope, nope, nope. They're LYING. Watch where you're pointing that goiter. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-22-2002, 05:17 PM	#7
Feraway Hawkbriar Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 348	I never said anything about TOLKIEN's vision of them or how they were in the books, I'm strictly talking about the one in the MOVIE. that lil action figure guy thingy proves that the one in the MOVIE had wings. __________________ "The barks goes ever on and on out from the dog where they began. He's out there crapping on my lawn. Till I hit him with my van."

02-22-2002, 05:00 PM	#3
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Its not as if its canon.

02-22-2002, 05:13 PM	#6
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	It doesn't really matter to me whether they make him have wings or not. We'll never know for sure and that's that. But I have to admit, those wings kinda suit him....

02-22-2002, 05:34 PM	#9
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	you can see the wings in the movie. they are hard to see, but when he (he or a she?) moves them, it's pretty clear and they look quite nice. good CGI bit. on a side note, cause im too lazy to wait for my brontosaurus computer to load pages, feraway, are you going to give your permission to aldesign for the fellowship of the message board soon? im DYING to se that site __________________

02-22-2002, 05:55 PM	#10
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Wait a second... do I see logic seeping into this thread? I'll have none of it!! Oh, by the way, didn't I sound sarcastic enough when I was saying the "sworn entmooter" bit? I mean, come on... "sworn entmooter"? And "my duty"?? It's so ludicrous I refuse to address it further . Anyway, I was just bringing it up... of course the products of a third party don't affect how it is portrayed in the books and even less how we think it is... we're still divided on that issue. Gosh, it all started innocently enough... I just thought it was a pic that people would enjoy seeing. I'm going to my room now. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-22-2002, 06:29 PM	#11
Feraway Hawkbriar Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 348	Comic Book Guy- Eh? ohhh, well [lets just use another word from now on - CBG], my mistake then. See, the way alot of conversation was going it seemed to me that people didnt beleive the MOVIE balrog had wings but it was so blatently obvious that it DID have wings so thats what the little "victory" thingy was about, finally solid proof of it...I misunderstood and didnt realize the wings/no wings debate was entirly over the book versions. Oh well, whatever. Luthien Tinuviel- I could have sworn I've already sent him a PM regaurding that. __________________ "The barks goes ever on and on out from the dog where they began. He's out there crapping on my lawn. Till I hit him with my van."

02-22-2002, 06:30 PM	#12
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Heh heh...stop picking on Nibs, y'all I think it's cool - especially the Gandalf figure.

02-22-2002, 07:15 PM	#13
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	I'm still not coming out of my room. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-22-2002, 07:41 PM	#14
aldesign Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Uk Posts: 447	figures are great. nice wings, Gandalf is now my Desktop Bckgrd __________________ The funniest story on the net, made by entmoot fanatics, visit it @ FOTMB.com FRODO LIVES!! GET FREE AVATARS HERE!

02-22-2002, 08:43 PM	#15
Evenstar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Neverneverland Posts: 215	I didn't see any wings on the Balrog!! Damn....colour me stupid!!! __________________ "Frodo, Mr Frodo," he called. "Don't leave me here alone. It's your Sam calling. Don't you go where I can't follow." FRODO LIVES !!!!

02-22-2002, 09:08 PM	#16
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	sorry if i sounded pushy or nosy feraway BUT IM DYING OVER HERE! i can't even find the other post that it originated form this will prolly get deleted or closed, so i just hope you see it before then and once again, i would have sent ya a PM, but my computer takes five whole minutes to load the "post a reply" screen" and almost ten to open up the main board. this takes up much less time and usues much less frustartion. oh yea.. hmm on topic, must be on topic... uhh.. drools, while staring blankly at screen oh yes! wings. uh huh. i thought that the wings were very nice and that the balrog looked just like my vision of a 7story 5 finned iridecent black albino killer sea monkey attacking an underground... uh city thing.. ..........god, im dumb.......... __________________

02-22-2002, 11:00 PM	#17
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Gandalf is cool . . . But WINGS?!! Never!! And where's the shadow and flame??? __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-22-2002, 11:10 PM	#18
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	hmmm shadow, flame, daeth destruction... good thing to have for a toy. yea, hand those lil playthings out for halloween, eh? __________________

02-23-2002, 06:14 AM	#19
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	I've always thought Balrogs had wings. __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought. Last edited by Radagast : 08-05-2004 at 11:52 AM.

02-23-2002, 06:45 AM	#20
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Regardless of whether or not I think Balrogs have wings, The one's on this toy are simply too small for it compared to those depicted on the movie. The figure's also too brightly colored IMO. The Gandalf figure looks good. And BTW, I guess its ok if Nibs stays in his room because his PC (or Mac, or whatever) seems to be in there. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

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