ne1 know the elvish language?

halfling1152 · 01-03-2002, 08:55 PM

Help i surf the net on all my free time searching for elvish who knows it?!?!?!help me please send me somewhere i can find it or e-mail it to me im halfling1152@aol.com please help if you can.THANKS

Darth Tater · 01-03-2002, 08:57 PM

http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/index.html

emplynx · 01-03-2002, 09:08 PM

Quenya Course Online...

Legolas · 01-04-2002, 04:36 AM

Yeah, all links are posted.
I am studying this course now, and it would be great if I could chat with somebody in Elvish. I mean, someone who is a newbie to the language, just like me (went 3 lessons so far), not with an elf

CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-04-2002, 09:04 AM

Some of the phonological rules get tedious later on ,but it is a great course. I wont redundantly post another link as you already have two.

Legolas · 01-04-2002, 11:21 AM

Well, if we start talking about Quenyan grammar...
I think Finns, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Russians and some others shouldn't have a much problems as English or French. That's because all 5 languages (and some more) use cases, and this is the most difficult thing to understand in Quenya (IMHO). The second hardest thing is those "personal endings". I don't know if I will ever learn them...
I looked through the course before starting the lessons, that's why I know a bit.

CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-04-2002, 10:58 PM

yeah, Alot of Finnish grammar rules.

How do you know about cases and personal endings? Didn't you say you were on the 3rd lesson. Lesson 11 covers Case phonology? Personal endings are covered in 13, I think.

Ñólendil · 01-04-2002, 10:59 PM

I don't think there's enough vocabulary for chit-chat.

CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-04-2002, 11:29 PM

Yeah it's made for middle earth that does take away from it's modern practical application

Kamyel · 01-05-2002, 02:31 AM

For someone who's interested in learning elvish would you guys recommend Quenyan or Sindarin? My friend and I are going to study elvish together and we're trying to decide which one to use.

CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-05-2002, 02:35 AM

Quenyan... More resources and better for speaking. Go to to Darth Tater's link and click on course.

Kamyel · 01-05-2002, 02:49 AM

Thanks

Legolas · 01-05-2002, 07:03 AM

I said I made the overview of the course before starting it. So, I know WHAT will it be there.
Pronominal endings are: 1) lesson 7 or 8; 2) lesson 14; (two parts).
About vocabulary - ardalambion contains many links, and some of them have quenya vocabularies about newer words. But still there are too few words, really.

TinuvielChild · 02-28-2002, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legolas

About vocabulary - ardalambion contains many links, and some of them have quenya vocabularies about newer words. But still there are too few words, really.

i totally agree! although i wonder...how easy would quenya and sindarin be to learn if you have been forced to take latin for the last three years?

Legolas · 03-01-2002, 02:45 PM

Why do you think Latin would help? Finnish would help better, IMO. Although there may be many confusements, like between French and Italian.

Ñólendil · 03-01-2002, 09:20 PM

Quenya is easier than Sindarin, according to linguist Helgeh Fauskanger.

***Earniel*** · 03-05-2002, 06:24 PM

It would be such fun to learn it. But I know I can't, sigh why can't I have some lingustic skills? The only language I'll probably ever be good at would be orkish! Although, imagine how that would look on your resume: Dutch: mothertongue, English: very good, French: good, German: manageable, ORKISH: good

Oh I'm so tempted!

Laurelyn · 03-06-2002, 12:50 PM

Eärniel: You're Dutch? That's so cool!!! I spent three months in the Netherlands around the same time I read LotR . . . never picked up any of the language tho.
I'm also lacking in linguistic skills . . . tough luck, I'm trying to learn Quenya anyways. It's certainly easier than latin!

***Earniel*** · 03-06-2002, 04:13 PM

You spend three months in the Netherlands and you never paid me a visit?

Not a word of Dutch, nothing after three months? tsss tsss. For shame!

Just a technicality, I speak Dutch or Flemish for that matter, but I am actually a Belgian.

Anyway good luck with the Quenya lessons!

Ërendil · 03-06-2002, 05:10 PM

I'm trying to learn Quenya but it is so difficult (But somewhat easier than Sindarin*). I'm having real trouble with the pronunciation and grammar rules. All my friends think that i am a freak for learing it and can anyone help me?

* Not too sure about the spelling!

01-03-2002, 08:55 PM	#1
halfling1152 Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: mass Posts: 5	ne1 know the elvish language? Help i surf the net on all my free time searching for elvish who knows it?!?!?!help me please send me somewhere i can find it or e-mail it to me im halfling1152@aol.com please help if you can.THANKS

01-03-2002, 08:57 PM	#2
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01-04-2002, 04:36 AM	#4
Legolas Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 171	Yeah, all links are posted. I am studying this course now, and it would be great if I could chat with somebody in Elvish. I mean, someone who is a newbie to the language, just like me (went 3 lessons so far), not with an elf __________________ Legolas - a stupid stubborn elf

01-04-2002, 09:04 AM	#5
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	Some of the phonological rules get tedious later on ,but it is a great course. I wont redundantly post another link as you already have two. __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

01-04-2002, 11:21 AM	#6
Legolas Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 171	Well, if we start talking about Quenyan grammar... I think Finns, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Russians and some others shouldn't have a much problems as English or French. That's because all 5 languages (and some more) use cases, and this is the most difficult thing to understand in Quenya (IMHO). The second hardest thing is those "personal endings". I don't know if I will ever learn them... I looked through the course before starting the lessons, that's why I know a bit. __________________ Legolas - a stupid stubborn elf

01-03-2002, 09:08 PM	#3
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	Quenya Course Online...

01-04-2002, 10:58 PM	#7
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	yeah, Alot of Finnish grammar rules. How do you know about cases and personal endings? Didn't you say you were on the 3rd lesson. Lesson 11 covers Case phonology? Personal endings are covered in 13, I think. __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm. Last edited by CardenIAntauraNauco : 01-04-2002 at 11:06 PM.

01-04-2002, 10:59 PM	#8
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I don't think there's enough vocabulary for chit-chat. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-04-2002, 11:29 PM	#9
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	Yeah it's made for middle earth that does take away from it's modern practical application __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

01-05-2002, 02:31 AM	#10
Kamyel Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 29	For someone who's interested in learning elvish would you guys recommend Quenyan or Sindarin? My friend and I are going to study elvish together and we're trying to decide which one to use.

01-05-2002, 02:35 AM	#11
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	Quenyan... More resources and better for speaking. Go to to Darth Tater's link and click on course. __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

01-05-2002, 02:49 AM	#12
Kamyel Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 29	Thanks

01-05-2002, 07:03 AM	#13
Legolas Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 171	I said I made the overview of the course before starting it. So, I know WHAT will it be there. Pronominal endings are: 1) lesson 7 or 8; 2) lesson 14; (two parts). About vocabulary - ardalambion contains many links, and some of them have quenya vocabularies about newer words. But still there are too few words, really. __________________ Legolas - a stupid stubborn elf

03-01-2002, 02:45 PM	#15
Legolas Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 171	Why do you think Latin would help? Finnish would help better, IMO. Although there may be many confusements, like between French and Italian. __________________ Legolas - a stupid stubborn elf

03-01-2002, 09:20 PM	#16
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Quenya is easier than Sindarin, according to linguist Helgeh Fauskanger. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

03-05-2002, 06:24 PM	#17
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	It would be such fun to learn it. But I know I can't, sigh why can't I have some lingustic skills? The only language I'll probably ever be good at would be orkish! Although, imagine how that would look on your resume: Dutch: mothertongue, English: very good, French: good, German: manageable, ORKISH: good Oh I'm so tempted!

03-06-2002, 12:50 PM	#18
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Eärniel: You're Dutch? That's so cool!!! I spent three months in the Netherlands around the same time I read LotR . . . never picked up any of the language tho. I'm also lacking in linguistic skills . . . tough luck, I'm trying to learn Quenya anyways. It's certainly easier than latin! __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

03-06-2002, 04:13 PM	#19
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	You spend three months in the Netherlands and you never paid me a visit? Not a word of Dutch, nothing after three months? tsss tsss. For shame! Just a technicality, I speak Dutch or Flemish for that matter, but I am actually a Belgian. Anyway good luck with the Quenya lessons!

03-06-2002, 05:10 PM	#20
Ërendil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 389	I'm trying to learn Quenya but it is so difficult (But somewhat easier than Sindarin). I'm having real trouble with the pronunciation and grammar rules. All my friends think that i am a freak for learing it and can anyone help me? Not too sure about the spelling! __________________ "You're one of the Abaharaki, oh I had forgotten. Look at me, I am completly drenched! I do hate the rain, it makes me so depressed..." "Hehehehe, moeru moeru!" "That's it, set it all on fire; we're gonna smoke out Escaflowne!" "Oh, I hit the wrong target... never mind that creature was useless to us anyway. Our orders were to get the girl? So he isn't our concern, we don't need him!" ^_^ Isn't Dilandau just fantastic? You just have to love the insane, murderous pyro :-D

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