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12-16-2005, 04:34 PM
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Elf Lord
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Nations' Positions on Torture
Here, we can post the torture discussion which is not related to whether it's right or wrong, whether it should be done or not. There is another torture thread for that purpose: http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=12758
This thread is a highly related subject though, and some cross-over may at times be necessary. In any case, here people can discuss US torture policy, Middle East torture policy, these brutal initiation rites that seem occasionally to happen in England, China's torture policy, historical torture policy, documents from leaders historical or recent about torture, etc.
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12-16-2005, 04:45 PM
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oh boy two torture threads...
"Well three cheers for McCain. Looks like he got Bush to cave in on torturing. I bet Cheney is pretty POed."
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12-16-2005, 04:47 PM
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I know; what is it with Lief and torture?? Lief you're really creeping me out here...
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12-16-2005, 04:49 PM
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I think its one of those silly topic splicing things. Not an obsession necessarily.
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12-16-2005, 04:55 PM
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of the House of Fëanor
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No, he actually made a new thread for discussing a different angle of, you guessed it, TORTURE!
 Whatever. Torture is barbaric and devalues & lowers a society, rather than elevating it. It's disgusting, but sometimes in a C.I.A. situation where the stakes are very high and there seems to be no other way to exact the truth from the enemy, well... but it should never be known to the public what the C.I.A. has to do. And these disgusting displays at Abu Graib or however you spell that prison in Iraq - jesus wept! Disgusting and base and low and backward. No excuse for that crap.
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I can't help but get the weird feeling that that should have been in the other thread.
  but you actually put your finger on something that really bugs me, the fact that we hear about all the stuff the CIA does I don't want to know what the CIA does I doubt the CIA lets the media tell us what they really do anyway so don't even bother writing about it.   oops  sorry off topic.On TOPIC the U.S.A does not utilize true torture; when we need someone tortured we let Egypt have them and they interrogate them with their, shall we say, more persuavise methods. whether that is ethical or not might be an interesting discussion as well but sadly, probably doesn't belong in this thread.
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, maybe Lief is going to come over to the dark side, except the EMPIRE has had no torture policy since the demise of Admiral Tarkin, we do have painless, lovable friendly sith mind control however. 
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