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Old 10-29-2005, 03:51 AM   #1
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Festivus

Perhaps we can have a mildly jovial discussion on this anti-holiday. It would also be welcomed to comment upon the 'creeping' holiday factor; i.e. Christmas stuff appears in stores before Halloween, etc.

If we can keep it light, non-religious and non-judgemental, we might just have a topic that doesn't raise anyones blood pressure.

Funny but true, someone has written a book on this.

http://www.festivusbook.com/
or

offered on Barnes & Noble
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:17 AM   #2
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It won't be very non-judgemental when we get to the Airing of Grievances...
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:57 AM   #3
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well, i love christmas ... the actual christmas bit ... christmas eve through the 12 days and new years etc rather than the commercialisation side of it ...

actually Spock i was thinking the same as i saw the christmas lights being put up all around the jewellery quarter a few days ago ...

regarding halloween , a mainly american thing .. that has noticeably been commercialised and americanised over here the last 5 years or so ...

though i always used to enjoy bonfire night very much .. though i have kinda not really been to one for some years now...

my mum is having an op soon and will not be very mobile for 6-9 weeks, so we should have all the family together this year, which will be great ... especially having my god daughter and neices for christmas ... makes everyone remember the childish joys don't it?

guess we'll have the old goose v turkey debate with usual odd untraditional suggestions thrown in .... and i shall have my traditional late christmas eve dash to get presents! ... chaos is a great present finder i find ... best NOT to think about it and just have things leap out at you .... subsequently i give some of the best and worse presents going! ... still at least people look forward to my presents out of sheer curiousity ...

what are some of your family traditions?

is it de-riguer that there is a satsuma at the very bottom of the stocking?, and a miniture bottle of spirit: brandy, contreau, whiskey etc ...?
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:21 AM   #4
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well, i love christmas ... the actual christmas bit ... christmas eve through the 12 days and new years etc rather than the commercialisation side of it ...
I must say we're together on this, I love the English traditions concerning this holiday.

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actually Spock i was thinking the same as i saw the christmas lights being put up all around the jewellery quarter a few days ago ...
Yikes, over there too? Wow, I too thought it mainly an American thing.

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though i always used to enjoy bonfire night very much .. though i have kinda not really been to one for some years now...
I'd love to attend such an event. One such is:
Samhuinn Fire Festival
Monday 31st October - 9pm Starting at the Castle and processing to Parliament Square - followed by the Samhuinn Club Night at Cabaret Voltaire til 3am! in Edinburgh. But I'd gladly attend one on the Sailsbury Plain.

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guess we'll have the old goose v turkey debate with usual odd untraditional suggestions thrown in ....
I noticed this year, the stores here have turkey and goose. This region was settled by Celts so perhaps that's why they have it. I don't remember seeing any in past years but perhaps they were all bought up by the time I started looking.

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is it de-riguer that there is a satsuma at the very bottom of the stocking?, and a miniture bottle of spirit: brandy, contreau, whiskey etc ...?
The ancient Japanese province of Satsuma was in the southern most part of the island of Kyushu. Its association with the production of pottery and earthenware was well known by the early 17th century. Most people now a days associate Satsuma with the tangerine like fruit which in Japan and China is known as the satsuma mandarin. Some families with older relatives still living practice this tradition for the children. Suntory Whiskey or brandy is also a favorite of younger families, put in the adult stockings. *of course we're speaking of Christian Japanese*
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:55 AM   #5
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It won't be very non-judgemental when we get to the Airing of Grievances...
Indeed! That's the best part. No laws, each family conducts the airing of grievances according to their own experience.

Now where did I see an aluminum pole for sale?
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:04 PM   #6
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Indeed! That's the best part. No laws, each family conducts the airing of grievances according to their own experience.

Now where did I see an aluminum pole for sale?
Are you volunteering to do one of the Feats of Strength?

I'm put in a holiday mood because the clocks go back tonight, and that means it's winter and nearly Christmas. I like Christmas so much that I like it to extend as long as possible - pretty much the whole of Michaelmas Term (October-November) I'm thinking about Christmas shopping, because it reminds me of home, and then Christmas begins when I go home at the beginning of December. Not that we have any Christmas celebrations until the actual day, but the happy expectant feeling of Advent lasts all month. It's a great holiday for religious and emotional reasons.

I'm not a big fan of Halloween, but I like Guy Fawkes Night/Bonfire Night, though I haven't been to any events in a while. Maybe I'll go to a firework display this year - they've started already!
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:58 PM   #7
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:49 PM   #8
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Christmas decorations have gone up here as well.
Feckin' commercialism.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:59 PM   #9
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The episode with Festivus was on tonight!!!! I cracked up and had to come an post about it! "Fight your Father!"
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Old 11-12-2005, 11:17 AM   #10
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Yep, we watched it again...it's one of our favorites. Yama Hama!
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Hmm, has anyone posted how the Festivus holiday came about? If not then let me:

As told by Frank Costanza (founder of Festivus) to Cosmo Kramer:

Many christmases ago I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had... but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him I realized there had to be another way! The doll was destroyed. But out of that a new holiday was born! A Festivus for the rest of us!
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Hmm, has anyone posted how the Festivus holiday came about? If not then let me:

As told by Frank Costanza (founder of Festivus) to Cosmo Kramer:

Many christmases ago I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had... but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him I realized there had to be another way! The doll was destroyed. But out of that a new holiday was born! A Festivus for the rest of us!

I forgot about that! too funny!
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:13 AM   #13
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Indeed!
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