Colleges

Mercutio · 08-16-2005, 11:30 AM

I am currently looking at colleges, planning to major in music and/or history. I play piano, oboe, and organ. Can mooters tell me anything they know about any of these schools? They are in no particular order.

Gordon College (Massachusetts)
Grove City College (western PA)
Univ. of Virginia
Messiah College (eastern PA)
Univ. of Richmond
Ithaca (NY)
Carnegie Mellon
Wheaton (Chicago)
Calvin College (Michigan)
James Madison

and then there's Eastman school of music at Rochester...but I'm not that good. Nor do I want to be a famous musician in a top-tier orchestra.

I've looked up the music faculty I'd study under at all those schools already. One thing, if you want to study music it's a good idea to be near a big urban center so that you have access to lots of excellent musicians/concerts/etc. Not all those schools are...for example Gordon is near Boston (good) but Calvin is near...umm...?

And for history, that's not as touchy an area as music. I'd think most schools would have a half-decent history department.

Spock · 08-16-2005, 11:43 AM

If Lebanon Valley, in Pa. still has it's past courses, it's a good school also.

Mercutio · 08-16-2005, 11:59 AM

Ah yes. I know the orchestra director from Lebanon Valley.

Twista · 08-16-2005, 05:01 PM

I dont think i post here enough to justify myself having a own celebration thread so I thought I'd put it in here.

Just got My 6th Year set of school results (the final year of school). I got alrite grades last year but I needed a few more to get into the course i am doing at Uni.

Anyway I got ABC this year - an A in Media, B in Classical Studies, and a C in Economics. Hence - I am off to Aberdeen University to study Property! Loads of mates from my year going there too acually so its going to be a blast. I leave on the 17th of September to move into Halls - cant wait.

Any other Brits goin to Uni this year?

***HOBBIT*** · 08-16-2005, 05:10 PM

I'm applying to colleges too.

One of them will be James Madison. I visited there about a month a go - very good school.

Mercutio · 08-16-2005, 05:57 PM

I know two people going to JMU this coming year. The only problem is...on their website, they have absolutely no faculty in organ (I just found out). The oboist looks good and the entire music deparment (they just became an "All Steinway School" with an anonymous gift of 12 Steinway grands).

I was surprised. I figured a big enough school as JMU even if it is secular would have an organ professor.

The Wizard from Milan · 08-16-2005, 07:49 PM

My suggestion is to go to the best, most renowned school that you can afford to enter (and that accepts you).
School recognition opens many doors. I would not be deterred by the prospect of not being number one in the class. Better to be average in a renowned school than the best in an average school.

Secondarily, I would also consider the size of the school's endowment because it affects the quality of teachers, structures and programs...

If you were to ask me about economics, among those listed, I would say: Rocherster, or Carnegie Mellon or (failing those) UVA

Also try to find a school in which you fit in; e.g. I would never go to a catholic university

BTW Yale has a major in music too
http://www.yale.edu/yalecollege/publ..._iv/music.html The major seems to come out of the department of music which handles the theory/history part. There is also a school of music
http://www.yale.edu/music/ysm.html where the musicians are; that offers a degree in conjunction with the "usual" undergraduate program.
Yale also, of course, has an excellent department of History.

Mercutio · 08-16-2005, 09:15 PM

I'm not really that into Ivy Leagues..I dunno. It's not as if I'm going into politics or law, or need that kind of name recognition.

I disagree with you that it's "Better to be average in a renowned school than the best in an average school"...if your a big fish in a little pond you might get more attention from the faculty. Something else about Ivy Leagues...just because Mr. Famous teaches Course 304 doesn't mean he really really teaches it. Plenty of TA's and other folks who do the real work.

Thanks for the advice, though.

I liked what I read about Carnegie Mellon. The only thing is, the oboists on their facutly are the type from big name symphonies who studied under brilliant oboists. So they can push you really really hard and be a little arrogant/belittling/in-your-face/etc...this one woman would be good to study under if I wanted to be a professional big-orchestra musician. But I don't. At least not now.

Nerdanel · 04-06-2008, 10:57 AM

This is great: Campus architecture by PhD comics.

Ours is exactly like the description of the modernist one.. XD

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-06-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerdanel

This is great: Campus architecture by PhD comics.

Ours is exactly like the description of the modernist one.. XD

Hehe; the local community college is very much the "neo penal" style. Our campus is mission style; probably closest to the Gothic Envyist. The Campus Tower is still under construction.

Willow Oran · 04-08-2008, 01:58 AM

I am so going to get my B.A without going into debt! Just a year and a quarter more to go...

Does anyone know what the difference between credits needed in order to enter a Masters program in America and in Ireland is?
I've been looking at grad. schools and I want to apply to either the creative writing or the medieval studies program at Trinity.

***Earniel*** · 04-09-2008, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willow Oran

I am so going to get my B.A without going into debt! Just a year and a quarter more to go...

Congrats.

Count Comfect · 04-09-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willow Oran

I am so going to get my B.A without going into debt! Just a year and a quarter more to go...

Does anyone know what the difference between credits needed in order to enter a Masters program in America and in Ireland is?
I've been looking at grad. schools and I want to apply to either the creative writing or the medieval studies program at Trinity.

That's awesome!

The credits should be the same, ie you should just need your BA. Best of luck with those applications when you do them.

sisterandcousinandaunt · 04-09-2008, 11:17 AM

*blinks at the unaccustomed sight of CC*

What happened, guys? Seattle closed?

***Rían*** · 04-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerdanel

This is great: Campus architecture by PhD comics.

Ours is exactly like the description of the modernist one.. XD

Cute, Nurvi!

I like the "but functional and without leaks" one ...

Curufin · 04-09-2008, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Does anyone know what the difference between credits needed in order to enter a Masters program in America and in Ireland is?
I've been looking at grad. schools and I want to apply to either the creative writing or the medieval studies program at Trinity.

I'm in a MA program in Northern Ireland (but it's virtually the same) and I needed the same qualifications for an MA program in the States as I did here.

Just for the record, I did my undergraduate work at Indiana University, and I'm currently at the University of Ulster.

shesabrandybuck · 10-17-2008, 03:27 PM

I just visited Towson University today for an open house. (Towson is in Maryland, by the way). I really enjoyed the people and the location of the college. Which is funny because I completely dreaded coming and I said flat out no that I would ever come to this college, but I actually did like it. I think that I will keep it in mind. I'm not crazy about their nursing school, which is what I want to do. But I have many more open houses to come, I guess.

**Mari** · 10-17-2008, 03:34 PM

Glad you had fun

shesabrandybuck · 10-17-2008, 03:58 PM

It was. I never thought I would enjoy Towson University.

shesabrandybuck · 10-17-2008, 06:44 PM

I would love to go to Notre Dame, its very beautiful. I'm trying not to stray away from Maryland though, maybe for Graduate Schools...oh that is so far from now. College couldnt come any sooner

08-16-2005, 11:30 AM	#1
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	Colleges I am currently looking at colleges, planning to major in music and/or history. I play piano, oboe, and organ. Can mooters tell me anything they know about any of these schools? They are in no particular order. Gordon College (Massachusetts) Grove City College (western PA) Univ. of Virginia Messiah College (eastern PA) Univ. of Richmond Ithaca (NY) Carnegie Mellon Wheaton (Chicago) Calvin College (Michigan) James Madison and then there's Eastman school of music at Rochester...but I'm not that good. Nor do I want to be a famous musician in a top-tier orchestra. I've looked up the music faculty I'd study under at all those schools already. One thing, if you want to study music it's a good idea to be near a big urban center so that you have access to lots of excellent musicians/concerts/etc. Not all those schools are...for example Gordon is near Boston (good) but Calvin is near...umm...? And for history, that's not as touchy an area as music. I'd think most schools would have a half-decent history department. Last edited by Mercutio : 08-16-2005 at 11:40 AM.

08-16-2005, 11:43 AM	#2
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08-16-2005, 05:10 PM	#5
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08-16-2005, 05:57 PM	#6
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	I know two people going to JMU this coming year. The only problem is...on their website, they have absolutely no faculty in organ (I just found out). The oboist looks good and the entire music deparment (they just became an "All Steinway School" with an anonymous gift of 12 Steinway grands). I was surprised. I figured a big enough school as JMU even if it is secular would have an organ professor. __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries.

08-16-2005, 07:49 PM	#7
The Wizard from Milan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 421	My suggestion is to go to the best, most renowned school that you can afford to enter (and that accepts you). School recognition opens many doors. I would not be deterred by the prospect of not being number one in the class. Better to be average in a renowned school than the best in an average school. Secondarily, I would also consider the size of the school's endowment because it affects the quality of teachers, structures and programs... If you were to ask me about economics, among those listed, I would say: Rocherster, or Carnegie Mellon or (failing those) UVA Also try to find a school in which you fit in; e.g. I would never go to a catholic university BTW Yale has a major in music too http://www.yale.edu/yalecollege/publ..._iv/music.html The major seems to come out of the department of music which handles the theory/history part. There is also a school of music http://www.yale.edu/music/ysm.html where the musicians are; that offers a degree in conjunction with the "usual" undergraduate program. Yale also, of course, has an excellent department of History. Last edited by The Wizard from Milan : 08-16-2005 at 08:25 PM.

08-16-2005, 09:15 PM	#8
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	I'm not really that into Ivy Leagues..I dunno. It's not as if I'm going into politics or law, or need that kind of name recognition. I disagree with you that it's "Better to be average in a renowned school than the best in an average school"...if your a big fish in a little pond you might get more attention from the faculty. Something else about Ivy Leagues...just because Mr. Famous teaches Course 304 doesn't mean he really really teaches it. Plenty of TA's and other folks who do the real work. Thanks for the advice, though. I liked what I read about Carnegie Mellon. The only thing is, the oboists on their facutly are the type from big name symphonies who studied under brilliant oboists. So they can push you really really hard and be a little arrogant/belittling/in-your-face/etc...this one woman would be good to study under if I wanted to be a professional big-orchestra musician. But I don't. At least not now. __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries.

04-06-2008, 10:57 AM	#9
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10-17-2008, 03:27 PM	#17
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	I just visited Towson University today for an open house. (Towson is in Maryland, by the way). I really enjoyed the people and the location of the college. Which is funny because I completely dreaded coming and I said flat out no that I would ever come to this college, but I actually did like it. I think that I will keep it in mind. I'm not crazy about their nursing school, which is what I want to do. But I have many more open houses to come, I guess. __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

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10-17-2008, 03:58 PM	#19
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	It was. I never thought I would enjoy Towson University. __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

10-17-2008, 06:44 PM	#20
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	I would love to go to Notre Dame, its very beautiful. I'm trying not to stray away from Maryland though, maybe for Graduate Schools...oh that is so far from now. College couldnt come any sooner __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

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