Shelob's Lair

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-01-2004, 04:37 PM

In the appendices of The Two Towers EE Peter Jackson says that Shelobs Lair was postponed until RotK because it would have clashed with the Battle of Helms Deep, yet in RotK it was clashing with The Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Does anyone know why this was or was there another reason.

ringbearer · 09-01-2004, 11:28 PM

I think just time restraints...The Two Towers would have been too long, with Shelob's lair...

Haradrim · 09-02-2004, 01:50 AM

yeah I mean can you imagine if they had added Shelobs lair which also would have included the stairs would have been like an extra hour. Also PJ was doing the story chronologically so we saw what happened at what times and I really liked that.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-02-2004, 02:21 AM

It's just the reasons he gave didn't make sense.

Halbarad of the Dunedain · 09-02-2004, 03:06 AM

Well there are a couple of reasons, one is that there was a lot of stuff already in Two Towers for Frodo and Sam. Obviously as they had back and forth Frodo to Aragorn. They would have had to subtract from what is now in TT in order to add the Return of the King Frodo and Sam footage. The more important and more likely reason is the timeline. The events of Shelobs Lair coincide with the Battle of the Pelennor. If they had done Shelobs lair at the time of Helms Deep, the ring would have been destroyed durring or before the Battleo f Pelennor.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-02-2004, 03:12 AM

I know that but PJ said that it was because it would have been sidelined by Helms Deep.

Manveru · 12-14-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Halbarad of the Dunedain

The more important and more likely reason is the timeline. The events of Shelobs Lair coincide with the Battle of the Pelennor. If they had done Shelobs lair at the time of Helms Deep, the ring would have been destroyed durring or before the Battleo f Pelennor.

if they were really following the timeline the frodo/sam storyline wouldve ended at about the spot when they reach the black gates as this coincides with the end of the battle for helm's deep and the parley with saruman

09-01-2004, 04:37 PM	#1
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Shelob's Lair In the appendices of The Two Towers EE Peter Jackson says that Shelobs Lair was postponed until RotK because it would have clashed with the Battle of Helms Deep, yet in RotK it was clashing with The Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Does anyone know why this was or was there another reason. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-01-2004, 11:28 PM	#2
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	I think just time restraints...The Two Towers would have been too long, with Shelob's lair... __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

09-02-2004, 01:50 AM	#3
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	yeah I mean can you imagine if they had added Shelobs lair which also would have included the stairs would have been like an extra hour. Also PJ was doing the story chronologically so we saw what happened at what times and I really liked that. __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

09-02-2004, 02:21 AM	#4
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	It's just the reasons he gave didn't make sense. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-02-2004, 03:06 AM	#5
Halbarad of the Dunedain Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arthedian Posts: 460	Well there are a couple of reasons, one is that there was a lot of stuff already in Two Towers for Frodo and Sam. Obviously as they had back and forth Frodo to Aragorn. They would have had to subtract from what is now in TT in order to add the Return of the King Frodo and Sam footage. The more important and more likely reason is the timeline. The events of Shelobs Lair coincide with the Battle of the Pelennor. If they had done Shelobs lair at the time of Helms Deep, the ring would have been destroyed durring or before the Battleo f Pelennor. __________________ "Can you feel her, running through your veins? She will always live forever!" ~ Atreyu [Her portrait in Black] "I want to see pretty people doing ugly things..." ~ Unknown "Damn it n' such!" ~ Stewie Griffen

09-02-2004, 03:12 AM	#6
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I know that but PJ said that it was because it would have been sidelined by Helms Deep. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

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