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09-12-2004, 04:36 AM | #1 |
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Aragorn, Denethor, Theoden!?
I was wondering after reading through old threads on this site about Aragorns past. As it goes Aragorn traveled through Rohan and Gondor in his youth under the guise of Thorongil. It is even said somewhere that Denethor was, or seemed to be jealous of Throngil for his favor with his father Ecthelion. My question is; Do Theoden or Denethor reqognize aragorn as the man from their youth? Do they see him and remember him as Throngil? It doesn't seem that in the books they remember him. They need to be introduced to him again within The Lord of the Rings. Well, maybe just Theoden, I don't think Aragorn met with Denethor again. So what do you think? Would they have realized and remembered? Did they!?
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09-12-2004, 06:45 AM | #2 |
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Aragorn went to Rohan and ondor in disguise so I doubt that Theoden would have remembered him.
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09-12-2004, 06:53 AM | #3 |
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Does it say disguise? I don't think thered would have been much point to it? No one knew his face before that so they have nothing to compare a secretive form to.
Ecthalion: Why are you wearing that silly Disguise Throngil!? Throngil: Because sire, i didnt want you to discover that I am... *Aragorn removes his plastic classes and fake nose to reveal* Throngil: That I am Aragorn! Ecthalion: Thats nice and all but, Who the H3ll is Aragorn!? So he disguised his name because he knew it would be important in his future but he didnt disguise his face, I don't think. It doesn't seem plausible since he was very close with Ecthelion, Denethors father and Thengel, Theodens father. Not to mention Aragorn would not look much different since he ages slower than most humans on Middle-Earth. *had to change Thingol to Thengel... it's 4:01 in the morning here and im trying to post in at least 20 threads right now *
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09-12-2004, 06:56 AM | #4 |
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Theoden's father is Thengel, Thingol was father of Luthien. Aragorn would have looked different. Think about how much time he spent in the wild.
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09-12-2004, 05:15 PM | #5 |
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Aragorn did not return to Gondor until after Denethor's death, but there seems little doubt that D. knew who A. was. His words about the "wild ranger from the north to supplant me" suggest to me that he was keeping up with Aragorn, possibly through the Palantir.
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