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Character Study: Beorn
What was Beorn. how come he is the only one. Where did he come from. Why did you like him. Why didnt you like him. What was his importance in the book. This is a character study. Write anything... about Beorn
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Actually doesn't it say in the appendicies or somewhere that Beorn had descendants? Therefore there must have been at least a few other Beornings.
I think Beorn really outlines what magic is like in Middle-earth. Aside from Gandalf occasionally lighting something on fire, magic is subtle and only to be used as a last resort, just like Beorn. He only joined the Battle of Five Armies when the dwarves, elves and men really desperately needed help. He's a good person, but good and evil in Middle-earth isn't all black and white. Beorn is dangerous to friend and foe alike, but as the company found, he makes a great ally.
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Elven Warrior
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ya i always wondered about Beorn. His descendants, the Beornings can't turn into bears, but they still don't like dwarves!
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Beorn is quite a character. He doesn't immediatly come off as likeable, in fact from the way Gandalf carefully handled him I always got the impression that he was a man to be scared of if you met him on the wrong day.
But his home with the horses and dogs and the way he is protective over the horses that he lends to Bilbo's company give him an unexpected milder side. When you think about it, not a two dimensional character that one would expect in a children's story. Manveru, please refresh my memory, where does it say that his decendants/family can't change into bears? I always had the idea they did.
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I really liked the way Gandalf knew how to handle Beorn, and the way Beorn found Gandalf's scheme so humorous. I mean, it was so misleading, and took advantage of him, but he really didn't seem to mind so much. And the food at his house always sounded so good. What I wouldn't give to live in Middle Earth just for the food!! (that's really shallow of me
![]() I don't remember the part about Beorn having descendants, but this is another reason why I should reread the Hobbit. I wonder why they couldn't turn into bears...hmmm. |
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Beorn
I think Beorn is a fasinatng character and he reminds me of Bombadill a bit. I was just wondering if anyone knew any of his history or if he is featured in any other stories?
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I've never compared Beorn and Bombadil, but that's interesting. Contribute to the already existing thread here.
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maybe Beorn is an Istari, after all, there were a lot of them, if indeed Gandalf did fear Beorn, then I would pace him as higher ranking, or at least more powerful, but then he would be a head of the order.. I'm confusing myself
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I don't think so. Oh, do you mean Istari or Maiar?
I haven't heard that Beorn's decendents couldn't transform either. I like what Nurvingiel said about the magic. It's so true. Oh yes, at first I didn't like Beorn, actually up untill Gandalf said he was following them. Then I decided he is cool. After the Battle of the Five Armies, I really liked him ![]() |
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the word 'beorn' in anglo-saxon means 'warrior'
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And the warrior bit is interesting, where did you dig that up?
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They are both like "earth spirits". Bombadil talks with trees, Beorn with animals. They are both masters of their own small realms. I think they even served the same meal- clotted cream and honey (no low carb diet there). Where they differ is that I definitely got the impression that Beorn is prone to violence, whereas Bombadil deals with issues in a much different fashion. Beorn is a man with magical powers-- Bombadil is immortal.
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From the way Gandalf talked about and handled Beorn I think he should be a man to be wary of, but why does he only get angry when men, elves, goblins etc are around and not animals that might tresspass on his land, is Beorn really abear that can transform into a man? or is he a man that canj turn into a bear like Gandalf implies?
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