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Old 11-04-2004, 03:12 PM   #1
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Stem Cell Research: California

Say - Rian or some other Californian(s): What's up with this $3 bill funding for stem cell research?? I thought your state already had major financial difficulties...
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:40 PM   #2
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No kidding! And since it didn't specify "adult" or "embryonic", you can be sure it's embryonic. But it's not PC to go against it, regardless of the fact that ADULT stem cell research is by FAR the most promising one and should have more money devoted to it.
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:11 PM   #3
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California has financial problems? But you're economy is huge! Huge I tell you. I guess you could have a lot of expenses too.

What's the difference between the two? I know almost nothing on the subject. I'm sure lurking in this thread for a while will enlighten me though.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:23 PM   #4
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California has financial problems? But you're economy is huge! Huge I tell you. I guess you could have a lot of expenses too.
Actually the reason why California is so heavily in debt and basically bankrupt is because their legislature doesn't make any decision - they leave it all up to the citizens. They send one spending referendum after another to the people to vote on and then the majority of people just go "well that sounds good" without ever thinking about the cost and where the money will come from. Calfornia - right before Arnold was voted in - was in a financial crisis. When will California get it's act together?

On the thing about stem cell - NJ is currently developing a stem cell research lab here - but NJ is better able to afford it than California.
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Old 11-05-2004, 08:26 AM   #5
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Actually the reason why California is so heavily in debt and basically bankrupt is because their legislature doesn't make any decision - they leave it all up to the citizens. They send one spending referendum after another to the people to vote on and then the majority of people just go "well that sounds good" without ever thinking about the cost and where the money will come from.
So the people make the decisions, eh? Oh gee (sarcasm alert on high), perhaps thats the point of a democracy, to let the people decide. Just like the Moot decided that Jonathan wasn't gonna be prez.

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On the thing about stem cell - NJ is currently developing a stem cell research lab here - but NJ is better able to afford it than California.
And I thought those wonderfully open minded (chortle) conservatives were against stem cell research anyway. I mean damn, it could only save lives, but oh well.

But Jersey can afford it? Hang on, don't tell me.
Did the, filthy communist out to destroy good decent middle white America, Democrats, win Jersey? Thank the lord for small mercies, I suppose.

Here endeth the lesson.
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So the people make the decisions, eh? Oh gee (sarcasm alert on high), perhaps thats the point of a democracy, to let the people decide. Just like the Moot decided that Jonathan wasn't gonna be prez.
Financial decisions are made large-scale and are hopefully far-seeing. Many financial decisions are unpopular, but they must be done.
If you have the people make these decisions, the results will be fragmented, or maybe for a terrible idea in the long run. Democracy exists so people can elect a group of competent people to form the government, represent the people, and make decisions for their benefit. Democracy doesn't exist so 36 million Calfornians form the government themselves.
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And I thought those wonderfully open minded (chortle) conservatives were against stem cell research anyway. I mean damn, it could only save lives, but oh well.
California is quite a liberal state IIRC, I'm not sure what your point with this was. You mean, because Schwartzenegger (sp) is a Republican?
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Fenir, you're not amusing anyone. So quit trying to get JD into a flame war.

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No kidding! And since it didn't specify "adult" or "embryonic", you can be sure it's embryonic. But it's not PC to go against it, regardless of the fact that ADULT stem cell research is by FAR the most promising one and should have more money devoted to it.
Why is adult stem cell research so much more promising? I must admit I'm not really familiar with the territory.
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