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02-17-2004, 12:14 PM | #1 |
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Paradise Lost
I am having to read this poem for the Literature curriculum at my local college, and although I haven't finished, I like it alot!
The lines don't necessarily rhyme all the time, as is stereotypical of poems, and the lyrics don't always end at the end of the line, but that's fine as well. I think the language Milton used is excellent, it gives you clear picture in your head, especially when Raphael is talking about the battles between Gabriel, Michael, Lucifer, and the other angels. I have no head for war terms so it helps that he didn't use them! I was wondering if anyone else had ever read this? What of Paradise Regained (Is that the correct title? I could be wrong)?
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02-24-2004, 04:36 PM | #2 |
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This is a great piece of literature!!!! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it.
I don't think Paradis Regained is as good, but that may be just me. |
02-28-2004, 03:13 PM | #3 |
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Yeah,wonderful poetry (though I agree with C.S. Lewis about the last chapters being "an untransmuted lump of futurity" i.e. boring)
And always remember: "Malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to man." A.E. Housman
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OK, not a great contribution to the debate on my part - but that is a good quote
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And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. |
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03-21-2004, 03:51 AM | #5 |
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Lol, yes, I enjoyed it thoroughly... and I completely agree about the last chapter.
I have, however, started the Inferno-- by Dante, now, and I like that as well... although very different in it's premise then Paradise Lost, for certain.
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03-21-2004, 12:35 PM | #6 | |
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03-27-2004, 12:32 AM | #7 |
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I am ashamed to say not far, I have been rather busy with goings on and *evil* school.
So, I'm basically at the beginning of the beginning of the beginning of it!
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Paradise Lost RULES!!! It's simply the best book I've ever read (even before LOTR)
Does anyone know any links to Paradise Regainedon the net? It's too short to be in a book on its own and the only book I found it in is "The complete works of John Milton" which happens to be a bit bulky. So can anyone refer me to such a link? |
06-03-2004, 10:46 PM | #9 |
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WOW! Thanks a lot
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06-20-2004, 02:24 AM | #13 | |
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Dante assumes you know all this as the reader, and relates instead not the creation of hell, but rather one pilgrim's journey through hell and then purgatory and then heaven for his salvation and the salvation of others. Along the way a good deal of philolosophy, cosmology, and theology is discussed as well as the role and nature of the arts, petry especially, Italian politics, the nature of kingship and ruling among other topics. Above all, the Divine Comedy is about Love, and the nature of Love, and each level of each of the divisions is about love. Hope that helps some. Forkbeard |
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06-20-2004, 03:49 AM | #14 |
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Thanks, Forkbeard. I'm surely looking forward to read it now
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06-21-2004, 12:33 AM | #16 |
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I've been reading P. Lost for a few days now ...
Wow! wow. the language is incredible. Forkbeard, any hints on translations for Dante? I've seen several styles.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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Anyway, those are the 2 I'd suggest. Glad you're liking Milton...fantastic poet. Did you know that he was blind when he wrote it? He had to have a secretary come and write down the lines he'd composed in his head. |
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06-21-2004, 01:18 AM | #18 |
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Thanks for the info re Dante.
No, I didn't know Milton was blind then. There was a funny story about his first marriage in the foreward - I'll try to find it.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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This is on my to read list. Hopefully I'll get around to it sometime before I end up in one of the nine levels of hell.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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