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Alright Canucks, today the Liberals lost a non-confidence vote 133 to 171. The full story is here.
The election will probably be in mid-January. You have the chance to vote for:Plus an assortment of small parties. However, these five parties are more or less nation-wide. Do you know who you are going to vote for? Any ideas? Is there anyone you are definitely going to (or not going to) vote for? If so, why? There are three ways to vote in this country: by party, by candidate, or by leader (and possible PM). You can also spoil your ballot or refuse to vote if you don't like any candidates. (Unfortunately, abstention is not an option on the ballot.) Which method or combination of methods do you use and why? I am tending towards voting for the party and leader, because it's a lot easier to do reasearch, and I'm thinking more big picture this election. (At the same time, I won't cast my vote for a useless candidate.) So far I've narrowed down my possible parties that I might vote for. After, I'll eliminate leaders, and if there's still more than one party left, I'll go by candidate. Already eliminated are:
*There are certainly a number of situations when it's not appropriate to have a clearcut. However, clearcuts are completely appropriate and sustainable in a number of common harvesting situations. I'm quite convinced the Green Party knows jack all about any of this. I'm sorry for my ranting about the Green Party. I just really wanted to vote for them. Parties who could still get my vote:
So, I'm down to those two parties. I need to research the forestry policies of the NDP and the Liberals to make sure they aren't horrendous like the Green Party's. What are the important issues for you in this election? Besides forestry, gay marriage, transportation, education, and NAFTA, I will be paying close attention to mud-slinging in this election. If people don't conduct themselves like adults I doubt I'm going to vote for them. Let's get exciting about voting! You don't have to be a Canuck to join in the election discussion in this thread. This is the Moot, all are welcome. [Edit: Originally called "Canadian Election: January 2006", but now the election is over, and we've started talking about politics.]
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The election date is set for January 23rd.
Am I the only Canadian posting regularly right now? No one's jazzed about politics? Aren't you Americans curious what your northerly neighbours are up to?
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What are clearcuts? Is it when you cut down trees, shrubs and everything in a certain part of the wood? It's not in my dictionary.
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I think a clearcut is taking all the trees on a particular tract of land - as opposed to 'thinning' the area by taking some of the trees and leaving others.
Clearcutting vastly simplifies the logging enterprise. (and if we think we don't like it, let's think about our demands for wood) I'm not familiar with the various scientific rationales though. I do think there can be more, and less, responsible ways of harvesting lumber. Mostly, that there be planting to replace the trees taken (something Aldarion took care of in Numenor, but not up the Gwathlo, sadly enough). Anyway - I just heard on the radio about some hefty corruption in Canadian politics coming to light, but don't know the personalities involved to well or the details. And hey... what's with this big storm front you guys just sent down here? And must you do it so regularly?
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I sympathise with your position, Nurv. I too would like to vote Green (here in UK) but as soon as you look at their actual policies you realise that they are an umbrella organisation for all sorts of nutters. (The deal-breaker for me was a proposed ban on animal testing.)
But that's pretty big news, first time ever a government lost a no-confidence vote. Or it would be, if it wasn't Canada and nobody cares! HA HA HA, just joking. Actually it made the news here, so we're not too parochial it seems. Looking at the numbers, it seems like you are bound to get a coalition government whatever happens. So, the key question is likely to be who comes third, and therefore holds the balance of power. How are they squaring up? Unions have a vote in Labour party policy here; I would say don't be put off by that. Union officials are (usually) elected by their membership, and required to represent their interests, which is helluva more democratic than the industry lobbyists who swarm around government and represent people in direct proportion to their wealth. Last edited by The Gaffer : 11-30-2005 at 02:05 PM. |
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On a side note, they have been doing clear-cut lately in parts of Scotland, my homeland. I'm sure it is analogous to harvest time in the wheat fields of Oxfordshire, but the end result sure looks like Mordor for years to come.
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Hey Nurv, notice how we're slowly turning an election thread into a forestry one.
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man,its has been a long time since i posted.
Anywho, since i can vote now, i figure i will vote conservative. I dont like the liberals, esopecially with the sponsership scandal and everything. How can Paul Martin not know what was going on with the governments money while he was the financial minister. I just dont like NDP and theotehr parties are too fringe for me. *sidenote*nurv, are u still at UBC. we dont start our exams at SFU untill next wednesday
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If I recall correctly, there was a federal program to promote unity in Québec (which still has vestiges of seperatism). This program would put various national symbols like the maple leaf in prominent and positive places, like during sports car racing etc. (It was probably originally a better idea than it sounds here.) The problem was, whoever was in charge of giving the ad grants mismanaged the money to criminal proportions. Millions of dollars were never seen from again, with no results. This was covered up for a while, but when Canadians found out, we were pissed. At the time of the scandal, Jean Chrétien was Prime Minister, and Paul Martin (now PM) was the Finance Minister. (This is in the Liberal government.) This is how the Liberals ended up with a minority government in the first place. Stephen Harper's complete incompetence was a big factor in the Conservatives losing the election after the Liberal scandal. Quote:
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Why yes, I did notice this is turning into a forestry thread. (Incidentally, I've bumped "The Environment".) I don't mind, it all started with my rant about the Green Party. Quote:
I was looking to the Green Party to be leaders in the environment. I find other parties also have inadequate environmental policies. Unfortunately, the Green Party are not leaders at all. They seem to base their environmental policies on people's feelings. This should be taken into account, but it's part of a whole that must include science, the economy, and the values of all citizens. Continued...
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But overall it's nice to know that other people's politicians can cause as much embarrassments as ours.
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Nurvingiel, as the thread starter, has asked that the topic title be changed.
DONE!
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did any socialist parties do well in the canadian elections?
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Sorry LCOU, our only Socialist parties are fringe parties: the Marxist-Leninist Party and the Communist Party. They won no seats.
Actually, I think I'm confused as to what "socialist" means. We have the NDP, who are quite left leaning and could be called socialist, I think. They did pretty well and won about 30 seats (IIRC). (I posted the right answer back in the thread on election night.) Quote:
I agree with the ruling from what I've read so far. That's my preliminary opinion.
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Doin pretty foo in the Olympics indeed, just behind us last time i checked.
So whats brewing up there politically Nuvvy?
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I'll reply in a sec Gaffer... alright Gaffer, we won't go back into the argument...it's pretty clear with me in the Dragon's Area, and you on the edge of the world, your ship ready to fall, that stuff is just looked at differently. What about the UK politics thread? I tried to look it up one day, and couldnt find it. You should, and then fill us in on the next elections, and who'll be running etc...
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Are you still saying that global warming is a myth or have you moved on to the solar radiation gambit?
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Only a conservative could see the logic of linking feminism to this kind of industry.
The real cause is the free market in health care that operates in the US. Here we have a system where the wealthy can buy pretty much whatever they want - including a vast raft of high-tech stuff that doesn't work - while the poor are left to die of their preventable diabetes complications. Funny how we don't see anti-abortionists lining up behind health reform. Could it be that they are a bunch of hypocrites? |
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Or perhaps the pro-life people have noticed that the people seeking health care are, like, at least alive...
You have to pick your battles.
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I believe it is illegal in this country, for example. It is one of the reasons that radiographers won't tell people the sex of the foetus from an ultrasound scan. That's a good example GM, another might be infertility services, which offer sex selection. Again, however, it is only legal in this country for specific reasons (i.e. medical ones) and using specific methods. That seems to have the balance about right to me. |
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Oh, I say, South Korea has a much larger problem than Canada:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...aby-flesh.html You would have thought that the Chinese would have realized that Jonathan Swift was joking in his essay on how to feed the Irish.......... But, really, ya'll, how does one police cross-country cultural ideals? Should Canada's trump those of the USA or South Korea's China's? What defines the narrow line of one social equality from the other's?
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