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09-16-2011, 06:47 AM | #1 |
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More of Fëanor
So, my buddy asked me if there are more stories about Fëanor than Sil? I didn't know. Anyone?
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09-16-2011, 01:46 PM | #2 |
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Nothing really in the way other narrative stories, but there there is further snippit and characterization of him in various parts of HoME, most of which make him look even more selfish and wicked than he does in the published Sil (like him shrugging off acidently burning his yougest son to death at the burning ofthe ships).
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09-17-2011, 01:50 PM | #3 |
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Thanks. That's the answer I needed.
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There is also “The Shibboleth of Fëanor” in Peoples of Middle-Earth. Fëanor was the founder of the Lambengolmor, the Ñoldorin “loremasters of tongues”. (Perhaps Tolkien, a philologist, saw himself a Human Lambengolmo. The Lambengolmor were also historians and keepers of other sorts of lore, such as Pengoloð (variants Pengolodh, Pengolod), who recorded much of the history of the First and Second Age up to the destruction of Eregion. It might be noteworthy that Tolkien assigned to Fëanor such a prominent position in his (Tolkien’s) own field.) (The Númenóreans became acquainted with Pengoloð and his writings after the end of the War between the Elves and Sauron when he left Middle-earth for Tol Eressëa: he traveled by sea from Lindon to Númenor, where he sojourned for a time before going into the Uttermost West.)
The “Shibboleth” of Fëanor was the deliberate shift by the Noldor of the initial þ- (“th”) sound to an s- sound. The Noldor would shift the sounds of their words out of preference, or even as a matter of fashion. Fëanor’s mother’s name was Þerindë, and he refused to say “Serindë” instead. He insisted that his family and followers keep the þ-. |
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Just to add, the þ that arose in proto-Quenya was not quite like the sound of English th as in think. The Elvish þ was made with the tongue-tip behind the back of the upper front teeth, and thus it was closer to s, which in the Noldorin dialect, it would merge with s later, as Alcuin noted.
And to really babble on! In VT 47 & 48 are published some texts from 1967-70. One of them, Eldarinwe Leperi are Notessi or ELN ("The Elvish Fingers and Numerals", VT 48) gives an alternative story of Pengoloð... .... but first off the name appears explained as 'teaching sage' in Tolkien's Words, Phrases, and Passages (at least), and in Sindarin it was said: 'Goloð was used of any sage or loremaster. A teacher of lore was pengoloð. KWEN- (whence kwenedé) 'speak with rational words' When he returned West might raise a bit of a question mark, since Tolkien appears to have revised his history, or forgot about his earlier history and invented a new one, which is still revising in some sense. The Editors of Vinyar Tengwar explain this well... Quote:
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06-01-2015, 01:01 PM | #6 |
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He sounds like an avatar for JRRT, who, if he had been transported to Gondolin, would have done just that!
Fascinating stuff, I am going to have to bookmark this thread and ponder it before I post again.
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