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Eagle Size
Just how large do you visualize the eagles in the Hobbit to be? It's little surpirse that they can carry a hobibt or a dwarf as both races are small, but they could carry Gandalf too. I think of them without their wings to be roughly the size of a horse.
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ammm...actually, I never tried to imagine how ther eagles looked like....
I think the size of them was - lets see. I thought they were smaller then what you said but now. Without the wings, they had to be as a horse or bigger, because if they would be smaller the weren't able to carry Gandalf. So I guess they were as a cow, just less fat... ![]() |
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And minus the legs.
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When I was reading The Hobbit I always imagined the eagles to be huge. I imagined the wingspan would be about 200 feet.
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The American Bald Eagle (at its largest) is 3 feet long, has a 7' wingspan and weighs 12lbs.
We know that Thorondor's wingspan was 180 feet..... Based on that ratio (7 to 180), Thorondor's body length would have been 78 feet and his weight would have been 308lbs. Any eagles that the Bilbo or the Fellowship saw would have been smaller than these measurements. Thorondor was the King of Eagles and called the mightiest bird that ever lived. |
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![]() If any of you have seen Jurassic Park 3, then you will know what I'm talkin about. I pictured the eagles (during a re-read) about the size of the terodactils ( spelling.) B/c those where pretty large. but, if the warden of the keys is right about the 30 fathoms, then I'm gonna need to chage my image of the eagles.
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Folks, you can't base it on First Age Eagles. Gwaihir would be a better idea. Gwaihir had a wingspan of 30 feet, which is much smaller that that of Thorondor's.
Not all the Eagles of the Hobbit need even be this large, however. Tolkien drew an Eagle picture for the Hobbit once, it depicts the Eagle who carried Bilbo and Dori: Click here to view it.
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I've never really thought about it. I guess that I picture them with a wingspan of about 15 - 20 feet. I think that that might be large enough to carry some dwarves and a hobbit, with the largest and strongest eagle carrying Gandalf.
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now I have to imagine even bigger eagles... Do anyone know what was the wingspan of the eagles from the first age? |
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This mean nothing. I knew all this. I meant: do anyone knows what was the wingspan of them? how many feet?
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![]() I don't really know what the average size was for eagles of the First Age, but according to The Warden of the Keys, Thorondor, who lived during the First Age and was the greatest of all eagles, had a wingspan of about 180 feet.
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Thorondor wasn't the greatesr eagle in the First age. He was the greatest in the third age.
And Gandalf did rode on the biggest eagle. he did rode on Thorondor, no? I think so, if I remember right. |
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