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02-20-2005, 02:29 AM | #1 |
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Orcs and Goblins
In the LotR the evil minions are mainly Orcs, while in the Hobbits they are Goblins.
I am pretty sure Goblins are mentioned at least once in the LotR (but I would not remember where). My question is: are Goblins and Orcs just a different name for the same thing? Or are they two different races? What do we know about the "genetic pool" of the two races? (i.e. does one descend from the other?) |
02-20-2005, 02:39 AM | #2 |
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I think they're the same thing. In the index of the Letters it says: Goblins, see Orcs...
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02-20-2005, 10:30 AM | #3 |
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i think it mentions in the hobbit something along the lines of the orcs being the big goblins of the mountains, but i could be wrong
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02-20-2005, 10:31 AM | #4 |
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Yes, they are the same thing essentially.
Goblins was sometimes the name given for the orcs that dwelled in the mountains..
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02-20-2005, 11:39 AM | #5 |
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Same thing; representations of different laguages. Orc (Orch) is representative of the Anduniac word, similar to the Sindarin word and Nandorin word (Yrch) and related to the Black Speech (which adopted some Sindarin forms) word (Uruk). Goblins (and in the hobbit, Hob-Goblins for large ones) seems to be representative of the hobbit word, possibly felated to the language of the Eorlingas. (of course, in this world, the reason is that JRRT used goblins in The Hobbit, and wanted a new word in LoTR)
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Er.. They seem to be diffrent but JRR Tolken said they were the same...
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