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11-19-2003, 12:27 PM | #1 |
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Christopher Lee...MAD!!!
He's not going to the ROTK premiere because his scenes sere cut out.
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11-19-2003, 12:38 PM | #2 |
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not surprised. All his best parts have been cut out except that one, so there's little left. Maybe he was too much of a purist.
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11-19-2003, 02:27 PM | #3 |
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I think CL is absolutely correct. For non-book people it would have been much more coherent to have the Gandalf/Theoden vs. Saruman confrontation at the beginning of ROTK. Not to mention getting the palantir.
I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason they did it was to get more people to buy the extended dvd next November. And remember, CT really knows his LOTR. Maybe he'll now rip the wizards duel? Oops! CT above should be CL (Christopher Lee). Corrected after error spotted by Mithrand1r below.
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I think they should have had the Gandalf/Theoden vs. Saruman confrontation in TT. Then after that go to Cirith Ungol (sp?) ending with the Sam thinking that
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Pippin looking into the Palantir is actually one of my favorite parts of the books. I'm really disappointed they have cut this out. Tuor of Gondolin - you see the marketing ploys they are using on the extended editions too?
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11-20-2003, 11:53 AM | #6 |
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Hi ... new member here ........
Its been awhile since I read the books ... but if CL scenes were cut does that mean they are changing the ending of the book? |
11-20-2003, 11:55 AM | #7 |
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Yeah, I'd imagine they'd have to cut out the whole Scouring of the Shire, which seems like a ridiculous plan...
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11-20-2003, 12:01 PM | #8 |
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Ach, that's old as old can be. The fact that the Scouring is cut is barely more disputable than the fact that Jackson has a nose.
Welcome to the 'Moot, Katherine. Hope you have a great time here, meet plenty of new people, and all that fun stuff.
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11-20-2003, 12:03 PM | #9 |
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Jackson has a nose?!
I'm still upset about it (the Scouring, i dont care if the man has a nose )
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11-20-2003, 12:08 PM | #10 |
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Sorry! ....... I didn't realize that it was already known that this was cut ... we've avoided things that would clue my husband into what was coming because he hasn't read the book ....
Well I suppose for a movie it works better for a "happily ever after" ending .......... |
11-20-2003, 12:12 PM | #11 |
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No need to apologise at all.
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11-20-2003, 12:19 PM | #12 | |
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I think it would would be confusing to non-book-readers not having the Gandalf/Saruman confrontation. Gandalf is going to go to Isengard to get Merry and Pippin anyway, right? And he's not going to see Saruman? It's incomplete and makes no sense. Of, course they should have included it in TT (among other things) but it should be in ROTK now. PJ screwed up with not using his time wisely and putting in scenes that really mattered, but of course we all think that right?
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11-20-2003, 12:20 PM | #13 |
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Originally posted by Katherine
... we've avoided things that would clue my husband into what was coming because he hasn't read the book .... _________________________________________ Hmmm. Reading the book first is a debatable point. Personally, I prefer rather have read it and had images fixed in mind before seeing it. Is there a difference in perception, evaluation of the movies by you and your husband? P.S. Beware of entangling movie arguments between JerseyDevil and Black Breathalizer P.P.S. I believe Christopher lee has said he's read LOTR once a year for a long time and had long-ago tentative approval by JRRT to be Gandalf in a LOTR movie.
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11-20-2003, 12:34 PM | #14 |
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Jeff's a great and wonderful man ....but he doesn't read books much .... I prefer reading the books first (no matter what movie it is) so that I can get the actual concept the author had. But then I'm addicted to reading ....
I'd forgotten about Gandalf going to Isengard to get Merry and Pippin !! |
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Oh yes, reading the books first are waay better than seeing the movies. That way you get the true story fixed in your mind the way Tolkien would have wanted and you are not swayed or confused by another's interpretation. Plus books are always, always better than movies, at least IMO.
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I'm just shocked really that the ending has been changed ... |
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I should have said... "I'm really disappointed IF they have cut this out."
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hmmm..... Have they cut the gathering at the western shore with Frodo and Bilbo leaving for Valinor with the elves?
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