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03-13-2000, 01:28 PM | #1 | |
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Directly from Gandalf...
As you may know, Ian McKellen is sending some reports about the filming to his own web page. They´re very interesting and he seems to be very identified with the project. Link: www.mckellen.com/cinema/lotr/index.htm
What i want to comment is the pronunciation of the term "palantir". i have always said palantĂ*r and not palántir nor pálantir. But he says: Quote:
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03-13-2000, 08:52 PM | #2 |
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annoying
That's going to be one of the annoying things about the movies: our favorite pronounciations are going to be proven to be wrong
I always pronounced palantir the way you did, but if what you said is accurate, I've been pronouncing Mithrandir correctly |
03-14-2000, 03:50 AM | #3 |
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Re: annoying
Yeah... the pronounciation guide in the appendix doesn't spend nearly enough time discussing vowels and accents... I remember how I used to accent the first syllable of Isildur until I found the specific mention of it as an example in the pronounciation guide...
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03-14-2000, 05:40 AM | #4 | |
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This passage is taken from The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-Earth by Ruth S. Noel.
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03-17-2000, 06:24 PM | #5 |
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Re: annoying
Looks like I've been saying just about everything "wrong"! Oh well, these guys ARE experts, but I think how it works for us is just as important as how Tolkien intended it.
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03-17-2000, 07:48 PM | #6 |
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I hope they aren't saying "pah LAN tir", as that would be wrong. It should be "pal AN tir". Never heard of Andrew Jack, but then, I don't run with the Tolkien linguists.
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03-17-2000, 10:01 PM | #7 |
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uuh, that´s too much for me, Michael, i really cannot find the difference between those two pronnunciations. Why not simply "pa LAN tir"?
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03-18-2000, 03:56 AM | #8 |
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That's how they'd divide the syllables in a dictionary.
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03-18-2000, 07:44 AM | #9 |
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"pal" doesn't sound anything like "pah". The word is derived from "pal" + "an" + "tir", "palan" being a derivation of "pal". The etymology goes:
pal = wide (open) palan = far,distant,wide,to a great extent palantir = (that which) watches (from) (a)far, "far-seer" Probably only I would care. |
03-18-2000, 04:02 PM | #10 |
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I have to agree with you. "pah" IS such a different sound and would make the word seem, I don't know, almost American and very wimpy sounding.
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03-18-2000, 04:35 PM | #11 |
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I still cannot get it . But i think that the Proffesor wanted an elvish pronnunciation very near to latin pronnounciation, and IMHO latin (as Spanish) pronnuciation follows the separation of syllabes.
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