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11-01-2004, 07:39 AM | #1 |
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The Death Star
do you think the Death Star will feature in any way in episode III? because we saw the plans for it in AOTC so what will we se in ROTS
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11-02-2004, 08:57 AM | #2 |
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It could very well be, frankly I'm counting on it for a bit.
I think adding those plans in AOTC was a very nice touch and helps solidating the two film-trilogy together.
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11-02-2004, 10:34 AM | #3 |
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I don't.
Why? Because it is presented in Episode 4 as something new, something original, and that wouldn't have been the case if it had been around for or twenty or forty years before that.
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11-04-2004, 02:36 PM | #4 |
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I think so. Maybe it will feature somewhere in the background, just to tickle something in the back of your head. As another link between the movies.
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11-04-2004, 04:59 PM | #5 |
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Most likely the Death Star WILL be in Ep III.
Or at least you will see it in construction much the way the second death star is in ROTJ. We will probably also see Grand Moff Tarkin - the dude in charge of the Death Star in Ep 4, A New Hope.
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11-05-2004, 12:09 PM | #6 |
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Wow. I guess everybody dissagrees with me. :grin:
Still. I think the Death Star will be alluded to in Episode III. I think that Palpatine will be setting the groundwork for its construction, and we'll get to see the machinations started that in 10 or 20 years will eventually result in the construction of the Death Star. The actual construction should occur in the 'off screen' times between episodes.
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At least that's what I'm guessing, can't be sure until we see the finished film, right? But I'm counting on it that there will be references or holo's from the plans in Episode III.
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Ah, I almost forgot that Yes, like I said earlyer on:
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So in conclusion it is a decent time to introduce the Death Star plans in Episode Two. The time span between then and Episode Four is sufficient with the Deth Star's "life time". As for the origonal question/statment, if the Death Star is shown in Episode Three it should be in a partial construction phase like the second Death Star in Episode Six [Return of the Jedi]. P.S. Also [for those of you who have not seen it already] if you want a very funny theory on the second Death Star watch the film Clerks by Kevin Smith!
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It's not exactly the same point, and not exactly not the same point. What he was trying to say[ to my understanding, correct me if I am wrong Way.] is that the Death Star would not be finished and should not be seen or previewed in Star Wars Episode 3 [Revenge of the Sith]. I am saying that the Death Star will not be finished but will probably be prevewed in some way in EP3.
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If my understanding of the timeline is correct, it is at least 20-25 years between Ep. 3 and Ep.4. If we can use the second death star has an estimate for time of construction, I would say a death star can be completed in about 1-2 years. At most, they could just hint at the death star as a secret project. Maybe have it as something in the background.
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03-13-2005, 05:05 PM | #14 | |
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One point I would like to make is that there is a significant amount of time between Episodes 4 and 5. Their base on Yavin 4 was attacked and evacuated. Han went to Ord Mandel with Leia during that period. A new major Rebel instillation was prepared on Hoth. Perhaps it existed before, but even if it did, they would have had to expand on it in order to make it capable of being the main headquarters for the Rebel Alliance. Several things happened. I don't know how long this period was; my Star Wars timeline is lost somewhere in the attic. If only someone showed up who had a timeline, that would really solve some of these problems . The Empire was trying to develop a secret battlestation. Their project was huge, and they probably had to work around the Imperial Senate. That would be a bit of a challenge. With the Second Death Star, dictatorships were in order rather then beaurocracies. That would doubtless have simplified things a lot. The Imperial workers were under more pressure to move fast with the second Death Star. While in Episode 4 there are no indications of people being under serious pressure to build fast, in Episode 6 there are many such indications. The commander's statements, "my men are working as fast as they can," and his visible fear, are all evidences of the pressure and fear he and his men were under. My main argument for their being able to construct the first Death Star more swiftly though will wait till my next post . . .
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03-13-2005, 05:31 PM | #15 |
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My main point is the technology. With the first Death Star, the technology would have been entirely new. They would have had to develop entirely new machines to develop pieces of equipment that had never been constructed before. Thousands of new instruments and technologies had to be put into place and fitted together. Thousands and thousands. It's an extremely difficult job. The prototype of anything is longer then the one that follows. With the second Death Star, the technology was there. It had already been created, been implemented. Shortcuts could be taken. The process was known. The machines that made these utterly new pieces already existed and could easily be reactivated to start a new Death Star. It's just an incredibly different job, moving from a completely new, impossibly intricate piece of technology, to repeating a job that had already been done. Obviously the second one was more powerful, more accurate. The technology for the superlaser had been enhanced over those 25 or so years. But the primary item was not changed.
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At some point in the movie, they should definately blast the Imperial March. It's all about the federation and the sith rising to power anyway. Leif, you make a lot of good points about how Death Star II was assembled more quickly. And I found I downloadable timeline here but it's too late on a schoolnight for me to look for the info.
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04-12-2005, 03:11 AM | #17 |
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"From the bridge of a star destroyer, two Sith Lords stand with a sector governor named Tarkin and survey the growing skeleton of a spherical battle station the size of a moon..." ~ An exerpt from the book STAR WARS: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover.
So it would seem that the Death Star will be making its apperance in Episode III, at the very end for a few seconds. This incident, in the book, is on the last page, nearly the last paragraph.
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04-14-2005, 08:47 PM | #18 |
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How is it that a book of Episode III is out before the movie?
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