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10-29-2004, 04:30 PM | #1 |
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New bin Ladin Video Tape
A tape was just released to Al Jazeera directed at American citizens, supposedly explaining 9/11 and how it was not the plan to destroy the towers - but just to make a point. It also says if we stop the fighting - he will not attack us - that our security is in American citizen's hands - not in the hands of Kerry, Bush or Al Qaeda.
He also supposedly critizes Bush and compares him to Arab leaders who restrict the freedom of their people. Who thinks it's important what bin Ladin has to really say? I find it rather funny (strange) that he's saying how he wants to explain his position on 9/11. I have a feeling he is trying to catch us off guard, trying to make it seem like "hey we can all get along" - while he intends to attack us anyway. I don't really think it's important what he says to us at all.
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10-29-2004, 04:39 PM | #2 |
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How odd...
I wonder if he's feeling desperate, for some reason...
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10-29-2004, 04:43 PM | #3 | |
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CNN isn't proposing it as a tape of deseperation though - they of course are saying that it's a tape that shows that he is alive and that Bush's efforts haven't worked. But he's declared that his ultimate goal is the destruction of the west over and over again - that is his only goal. And now he's trying to basically say that if we lay down our arms - he will not attack anymore. yeah right.
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10-29-2004, 04:48 PM | #4 |
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I think he know's that America won't just abandon there arms though, so it'd be interesting to see what he does if they did. I don't think he'd be expecting that.
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10-29-2004, 05:03 PM | #5 |
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A clear and pathetic attempt to influence the election especially after all the propaganda about destroying the West. Anyone else old enough to remember the similar attempt over Carter vs REagan and the hostages in Iran under As-sa-hole-a what-was-his-nama(Khourmaare roughe?)
Now, if I have the PURPORTED logic it goes: We will destroy the evil West We DID the Two Towers We MEANT to do the TWO Towers WE ARE NOT SORRY WE DID THE TWO TOWERS we did them because of BUSH DON'T re-elect him and (fingers crossed behind his back) we won't be naughty WE STILL MEAN TO DESTROY THE WEST Let's see, Clinton refuse ABL on 3 occasions offered by Libya, BUSH is elected, the TWO TOWERS are "accidentally" destroyed to make a point NOW that adds up for Islamic terrorists, but DO they really think every one is as inane as they? I note for emphasis that Dan (I'D) Rather (have it my way, just ignore the facts) broke the stroy on CBS. Another credibility issue... .
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10-29-2004, 04:40 PM | #7 |
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To be honest I don't think this will change many people's view on him. He still planned to knock down the Towers, whatever he says and of course he'll attack if America stop fighting. Although many people were against the War on Terrorism I think they'll be against moving American troops out of Afghanistan. They'll probably have the 'we started a job, so we'll have to finish it' attitude.
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11-04-2004, 01:24 PM | #9 | |
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BTW - I read this several days ago - but with the elections never posted it. The bin Ladin trascript had been released of the whole tape by al Jazeera - Bin Ladin is now claiming that the goal is to bankrupt the US by having us run around chasing ghosts.
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11-04-2004, 11:48 PM | #11 |
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Lizra, oops! I forgot who uttered that lavishly nice phrase about liking older men. But now that I am corrected, let me abase myself to you in sorrow for such a neuronal dysfunction! *abases self* Pardon, mi'lady, a thousand pardons!!!
I note in the transcript of OBL's statement that he thinks he had a significant part in the fall of the USSR militarily and financially. Delusional is the term for diagnosing that level of self-absorption. He conveniently forgets the role of the USA in the equation. That probably works well with illiterates and persons unable to contact the outside world. No one with a sense of history could fall for it. And he thinks he can do the same to the USA and thus cause the West to fall? Interesting theory, but he doesn't have the resources either militarily or financially. by the by, that last claim can now be shown not to be the product of American hubris but of OBL's braggadocio (for certain Irish posters who seemed to allege otherwise !)
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05-02-2011, 10:44 PM | #12 |
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Won't be anymore of these videos to discuss. Even after a lapse of 6.5 years.
Good enough.
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05-03-2011, 05:51 AM | #13 |
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How embarrassing for Pakistan that he WASN'T hiding in a cave.
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05-03-2011, 07:41 AM | #14 |
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When I first saw this thread, I thought JD had come back to post it.
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05-03-2011, 09:08 AM | #15 |
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Well, I would be interest in JD's take on the absence of Bin Laden...........
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