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05-11-2005, 04:56 PM | #1 | |
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Nazgul horses
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I have made a curious observation. I hope it was not discussed before. After the nazgul were drowned at the Bruinen Ford only the bodies of 8 horses were found: Quote:
Isn't it curious that later only one of the nazgul (the Witch-King) was seen to ride a horse at the siege of Minas Tirith? The rest were constantly on Fell Beasts. I believe that horse was the same animal that survived the Flood. So it looks like: 1. One of the Black Riders (most likely the WK) was able to get out of the river without "loosing his shape" (whatever that means) and save a horse and ride to Mordor ahead of the others. Later he probably collected the rest of his Riders on the Fell Beast (remember the shape that flew over the Fellowship near Caradhras) 2. The nazgul had only one trained horse each 3. The training took a long time, not just a single spell, but probably a lot of petting and carrot-feeding What do you think on it? |
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I don't see why they wouldn't just train more than one horse per Nazgul at the same time Gordis. (Or at least, in orverlapping timelines.) This could also have coincided with a fell beast development program.
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They, probably had more success with Fell beasts. Great observation, gordis! Last edited by Olmer : 05-11-2005 at 10:40 PM. |
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05-12-2005, 03:36 AM | #5 | |
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i agree with olmer here, it is quite obvious, to me, that the training of the black horses would be a long process, seeing as how the nazgul inspire terror in all living things, including the orcs and trolls - on the other hand, the fell beasts were nurtured by sauron, or the nazgul, fed with fell meats
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Yes I agree. The nazgul horses must have been quite unique. And not only were some horses "picked out of thousands of others who were too scared of Nazgul", but also perhaps these selected ones had to be interbred to get foals to be trained by nazgul from a very young age. Bottlefed by nazgul, perhaps . (Gandalf says that they were "BORN and BRED in the service of Mordor"). Nazgul could "look through the eyes of their horses" ho help their poor eyesight, that means they had to establish a pretty strong mental connection with the horse. Moreover, they were OUTSTANDING horses, not the sorry maltreated creatures of PJ's movie. Gandalf praising Shadowfax says: "The horses of the Nine cannot vie with him" However, you can see from the example below that they come very close behind: Tale of Years Nazgul: Fords of Isen - 18.09; Sarn Ford - evening 22.09 Gandald on Shadowfax: Fords of Isen - 24.09; Sarn Ford - 28.09 So it took the same time (4 days) for Shadowfax and the nazgul horses to cover the same distance! And Gandalf said he has ridden in a great hurry! So, possibly the nazgul horses were all of Mearas blood, therefore very rare to come by. It seems that Shadowfax had no fear of the nazgul, so perhaps his kin was also eligible for this character. I believe that given all those difficulties with horses, each nazgul started training a new horse when the previous was growing old. That was sensible in times of peace. And, remember, Sauron was not planning to start the war that soon, until in 3017 he learned about the Ring from Gollum. So in two years there was no time for the nazgul to train extra horses. And even much less time after their own were drowned. |
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