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12-11-2003, 09:22 PM | #1 |
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I was reading the paper a couple of days ago and saw an article that said Americans were getting mad a Canadians who have flags and other things identifying them when they travel. It said that Americans were feeling like we were another country against them. From what ive seen on the moot, al ot of americans are pretty patriotic. just wondering what others think about this.
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12-11-2003, 10:04 PM | #2 | |
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By the way - I do have a huge Ontario flag which I had hanging in my room for a long time, right now it is packed away. I also have a British flag.
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12-11-2003, 10:35 PM | #3 |
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Ive got a t shirt that says Canadian girls kick ass myself.
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I happen to have 2 sweatshirts that have Canada and the Canadian flag on them. I got them on separate visits to visit relatives up there. I wear them when I'm cold... as they are warm. |
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12-12-2003, 12:43 AM | #5 | |
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12-12-2003, 05:26 AM | #7 |
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Patriotism has its good and bad sides.
On the positive side, it ties people together and strengthens a sense of the collective good. On the bad side, it makes it much easier to dehumanise other nationalities, justify wars and distract people from what's really going on. It has always been cynically exploited by those in power to perpetuate their regimes, so one should be reflexively suspicious of it. Last edited by The Gaffer : 12-12-2003 at 08:22 AM. |
12-12-2003, 02:14 PM | #8 |
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Extreme patriotism is a uniquely American phenomenon. Take England. There were virtually no St George's day celebrations. However, we still celebrated St. Patrick's day and sung rebel songs about people who tried to blow up our English grandfathers. England, as I have said before on another thread, is rather embarassed at such displays.
However, she can still be stirred. Look at the outpouring of support at HM the Queen's Golden Jubilee, for example. So I suppose it goes both ways.
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Yes we are patriotic, but we haven't imperialized and colonized an entire world in the name of it - like Europe, we haven't killed millions and millions of people like Germany has. We are proud of our accomplishments and that is where OUR patriotism lies. Quote:
I know Europe likes to look down on our patriotism - but most of it is out of jealousy because at one time you guys used to be the world powers, now you are but a speck of dirt in the grand scheme of things and are no longer calling the shots. I'm sure if I see America fall off the pedestal like you guys did, I will feel the same way and be resentful of who ever takes our place.
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i put patriotism/nationalism in the same boat as *dare i say it* religion... it's mostly harmless, sometimes positive, sometimes very negative... i'd like to see us think more about mankind and less about nations... it's easy to say "we're not bragging, just being proud"... but i think it's better to leave the flag-waving alone, and let your deeds speak for themselves... if they are really that impressive, the flag-waving isn't necessary
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12-12-2003, 03:40 PM | #13 | |
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You can show and have a love for your country and still care about others on the outside. But hey - my family comes before you - NJ comes before Massachusetts and my country comes before England or any other country. Sorry - but that is the way it is.
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12-12-2003, 04:25 PM | #14 |
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I think being proud of your country and wishing it well are at the heart of true patriotism. Other countries doubtless show it differently than we do.
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Perhaps a nation with as little history as America has a concentrated feeling in their history?
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