Pope Hospitalized

jerseydevil · 02-01-2005, 07:36 PM

Pope John Paul II has been hospitalized for flue and respritory problems. I figured I'd start this thread. I'm sort of wonderin gif he'll be able to survive things. From what the media is saying - it seems pretty serious and I don't think with his failing health that he'll come out of it.

I've sort of wondered how he's been able to do his duties anyway. When I hear the pope said this or the pope said that - it seems more like there is a committee or a person behind him who is saying these things - because in public he can barely speak.

Millane · 02-01-2005, 07:39 PM

I dont think he'll be able to pull through this, everytime you see him he's looks worse and worse

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

I've sort of wondered how he's been able to do his duties anyway. When I hear the pope said this or the pope said that - it seems more like there is a committee or a person behind him who is saying these things - because in public he can barely speak.

yeah thats the impression that i get aswell...

Insidious Rex · 02-01-2005, 09:23 PM

Well lets not bury the old guy before hes ready to go now. From what I heard hes not in eminent danger of death just yet. In fact they dont even have him in intensive care and they said his temperature is back to normal. Remember hes come back from much worse. Whats more his handlers have been busy scheduling his meetings for next week including one with C. Rice on Tuesday. But hey you never know whatll happen so I guess we'll see over the next few days. So far the Cardinals havent been summoned...

Embladyne · 02-01-2005, 09:40 PM

Hmmm....who's in line to be the next pope? I don't keep up with this kind of thing.
I'm not sure if I think it would be better for him to die, cause he seems so frail...or if I want him to live longer because it will be sad for so many people when he dies...

cassiopeia · 02-01-2005, 10:31 PM

I've been thinking along the lines of what jerseydevil said. Whenvever I've seen him on TV, he seems to be very frail. His heart seems to want to continue with his duties, but I'm not sure if his body is up to it anymore. There's an article about his hospitalization here.

Lief Erikson · 02-01-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Embladyne

who's in line to be the next pope?

The cardinals cast ballots, electing the next pope in a carefully controlled process. As Insidious said, the situation isn't yet considered grave enough to summon the cardinals. I don't believe we could say that anyone is "in line".

jerseydevil · 02-01-2005, 11:13 PM

He may not be in grave danger at the moment - but in his condition - anything can happen. He is NOT in the best of shape at all. If he is having respritory problems - it could very easily develop into pneumonia or something. Also- the vatican has a history of keeping dire news secret until the last minute I think.

me9996 · 04-02-2005, 09:14 PM

He's dead

Meriadoc Brandybuck · 04-02-2005, 09:42 PM

More information here.

strider8 · 04-03-2005, 04:31 AM

I feel so sad because Pope John Paul II has died

Nerdanel · 04-03-2005, 04:42 AM

I'm sorry for all those of you, to whom the pope meant a lot - I know there's a lot of you out there.

***Fat middle*** · 04-03-2005, 05:27 AM

It's a sad loose for us

but, on the other hand, he had such a full life, so much similar to the ways of Christ, that I feel quite happy he's finally reached its end and is now is the company of his Love.

Fenir_LacDanan · 04-08-2005, 11:40 AM

'Tis a sad loss indeed. A Pope that helped to bring down the Soviet Union; lived through the destruction of Poland by the Germans, (during which he saw many of his childhood jewish friends shown Nazi hospitality); helped to bring the word of Christ to billions of faithful, and helped the struggle for peace in the world more than any other. Not to bad for the son of a peasant soldier from Poland...

Tradition states that college of Cardinals, usually around 120 in all, vote in the Vatican one of their number to the become Pontifex Maximus, or basically the new Pope. Generally this takes about 15 days once the Cardinals are gathered.

And I doubt it will be a Frenchman, nor one of the Irish (to my lasting regret). An age rule applies, which isn't a bad thing, give the general age of the various Cardinals is around 75.

Requiescat in pace, John Paul II.

***Tessar*** · 04-08-2005, 01:57 PM

Aye, it's a very sad loss.

I was lucky enough to get to sing at the requiem mass for him at my parish and found something out that I'd never known before--our priest actually spoke with the Pope and the permission for our parish came straight from him!

Our priest is one of the Anglican ministers who became a catholic priest, and at the same time as he sent in his 'resume' he also asked that he be allowed to start his own parish. Apparently the request was so strange that it ended up on the Pope's desk.

Anyways. It's so sad to lose him, but on the other hand I guess it's a little exciting that I'm about to get to see what it's like when a new pope is elected.

02-01-2005, 07:36 PM	#1
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Pope Hospitalized Pope John Paul II has been hospitalized for flue and respritory problems. I figured I'd start this thread. I'm sort of wonderin gif he'll be able to survive things. From what the media is saying - it seems pretty serious and I don't think with his failing health that he'll come out of it. I've sort of wondered how he's been able to do his duties anyway. When I hear the pope said this or the pope said that - it seems more like there is a committee or a person behind him who is saying these things - because in public he can barely speak. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

02-01-2005, 09:23 PM	#3
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Well lets not bury the old guy before hes ready to go now. From what I heard hes not in eminent danger of death just yet. In fact they dont even have him in intensive care and they said his temperature is back to normal. Remember hes come back from much worse. Whats more his handlers have been busy scheduling his meetings for next week including one with C. Rice on Tuesday. But hey you never know whatll happen so I guess we'll see over the next few days. So far the Cardinals havent been summoned... __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-01-2005, 09:40 PM	#4
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	Hmmm....who's in line to be the next pope? I don't keep up with this kind of thing. I'm not sure if I think it would be better for him to die, cause he seems so frail...or if I want him to live longer because it will be sad for so many people when he dies... __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

02-01-2005, 10:31 PM	#5
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I've been thinking along the lines of what jerseydevil said. Whenvever I've seen him on TV, he seems to be very frail. His heart seems to want to continue with his duties, but I'm not sure if his body is up to it anymore. There's an article about his hospitalization here. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

02-01-2005, 11:13 PM	#7
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	He may not be in grave danger at the moment - but in his condition - anything can happen. He is NOT in the best of shape at all. If he is having respritory problems - it could very easily develop into pneumonia or something. Also- the vatican has a history of keeping dire news secret until the last minute I think. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

04-02-2005, 09:42 PM	#9
Meriadoc Brandybuck Magnificent Master of Buckland Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buckland, U.S.A. Posts: 1,138	More information here. __________________ But it is the way of my people to use light words at such times and say less than they mean. We fear to say to much. It robs us of the right words when a jest is out of place. -Meriadoc Brandybuck Is there anything I can do that wouldn't inconvenience me?.-Adrian Monk Hogan: What's a definate factor that we can count on? Newkirk: We don't know what we're doing. Do you wanna split a pineapple? -Shawn Spencer

04-03-2005, 04:31 AM	#10
strider8 Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a spaceship, floating in your puny planet's atmosphere, awaiting orders to invade Posts: 292	I feel so sad because Pope John Paul II has died __________________ The axes hewed Forlong as he fought alone and unhorsed; and both Duilin of Morthond and his brother were trampled to death when they assailed the mumakil,leading their bowmen close to shoot at the eyes of the monsters. Neither Hirluin the fair would return to Pinnath Gelin, nor Grimbold to Grimslade, nor Halbarad to the northlands,dour-handed Ranger. Those that would not return home, page830-831, The Battle of the Pelennor Fields, The Return of the King

04-03-2005, 04:42 AM	#11
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	I'm sorry for all those of you, to whom the pope meant a lot - I know there's a lot of you out there. __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

04-03-2005, 05:27 AM	#12
*Fat middle* Mootis per forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spain Posts: 61,439	It's a sad loose for us but, on the other hand, he had such a full life, so much similar to the ways of Christ, that I feel quite happy he's finally reached its end and is now is the company of his Love. __________________ Do not be hasty. That is my motto. Now we'll have a drink and go to the Entmoot.

04-08-2005, 11:40 AM	#13
Fenir_LacDanan Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Free, happy, drunk and sincere Posts: 346	'Tis a sad loss indeed. A Pope that helped to bring down the Soviet Union; lived through the destruction of Poland by the Germans, (during which he saw many of his childhood jewish friends shown Nazi hospitality); helped to bring the word of Christ to billions of faithful, and helped the struggle for peace in the world more than any other. Not to bad for the son of a peasant soldier from Poland... Tradition states that college of Cardinals, usually around 120 in all, vote in the Vatican one of their number to the become Pontifex Maximus, or basically the new Pope. Generally this takes about 15 days once the Cardinals are gathered. And I doubt it will be a Frenchman, nor one of the Irish (to my lasting regret). An age rule applies, which isn't a bad thing, give the general age of the various Cardinals is around 75. Requiescat in pace, John Paul II. __________________ Audaces fortuna juvat

04-08-2005, 01:57 PM	#14
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Aye, it's a very sad loss. I was lucky enough to get to sing at the requiem mass for him at my parish and found something out that I'd never known before--our priest actually spoke with the Pope and the permission for our parish came straight from him! Our priest is one of the Anglican ministers who became a catholic priest, and at the same time as he sent in his 'resume' he also asked that he be allowed to start his own parish. Apparently the request was so strange that it ended up on the Pope's desk. Anyways. It's so sad to lose him, but on the other hand I guess it's a little exciting that I'm about to get to see what it's like when a new pope is elected.

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