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10-12-2005, 06:37 PM | #1 |
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Lawyers
Are there lawyers in Middle Earth? What do you think? If so, where do they live, what do they do, and should we drive them out?
On a similar topic, how are government things run, besides the kings and stewards? Do they have health care and welfare programs? Who manages education? What about endowments for the arts? Am I going to be shot for even considering the idea of lawyers in Middle Earth? |
10-12-2005, 07:48 PM | #2 |
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Maybe the lawyers are all in Southern Gondor.
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10-12-2005, 08:09 PM | #3 |
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There's no such thing as an LOTR lawyer. If you want to sue someone, just take your sword and chop their head off.
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10-13-2005, 02:31 PM | #4 |
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I don't think there are lawyers in ME, but I won't shoot you for it.
Education wise I think that there was none in the Shire, as it says somewhere (either in LotR or TH) that most hobbit children didn't know how to read or write. I'm also guessing from Aragorn's little talk about the Rohirrim that they didn't have an schooling. As for Government. The Shire has a Mayor and a Thain. In Gondor they have a Council which I think acts like the Cabinet does in Britain. It was them who refused Arvedui and appointed Earnil II as King.
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no elanor we won't shoot you (at least i won't,) we'll use lightsabers i think if any race had lawyers it would have been hobbits with their little small claims courts and housing difficulties that bilbo had
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10-13-2005, 04:00 PM | #6 |
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Actually, I was thinking about this and I realized they do have heralds and esquires that fulfill lawyerly tasks sometimes-- representing someone else, executing their wishes. Like the Mouth of Sauron, Wormtongue, etc. Even Elrond in his younger days. They just don't call themselves lawyers. In fact, you could possibly consider the Istari to be lawyers, since they were sent out to represent the Valar and handle their concerns. Also some of the Valar seem to have special Maiar as assistants who handle their technical stuff. So no one is free of lawyers! Ha ha ha!
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10-13-2005, 04:01 PM | #7 |
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There ARE lawyers in Middle Earth, sillies! They are all in Mordor! That's why those poor hobbits had to do their own wills and things. And that part about the Bag End place, well, it was just to show that all hobbits can get along without lawyers! (They are not niccccce are they, preciousssssss. No. No. No. Tough and stringly and off-color and nassssssty issssss tthemsssssssss.)
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