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03-22-2007, 05:17 AM | #1 |
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Theology III
Third thread, and the debate can continue.
The topic,as before, is religion. Original thread starter was Ruinel. The previous threads were Real debate thread for religion and Theological opinions, part II. Both have reached the 1000-post limit, and are now closed. PS: If anyone wonders why I named this thread 'theology' instead of the 'theological opinions', I have had a request for a name change, and I think the new title is indeed better suited. If you do not agree, feel free to PM me. Have fun.
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03-22-2007, 06:48 AM | #2 |
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Despite an excellent attempt by Lief, Rian still has the most posts in the three versions of this thread, somewhere north of 300...
I kinda liked the "opinions" in the title - it reminded me (at least) that what we're debating/arguing are our opinions, and not something to get highly offended about. But I guess "-logy" means "study of," so still no hard feelings...
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Oh sheesh, my music teacher is hugey anti-Catholic/Early Church.
Apparently: Only monks were allowed to learn to read. Gregory the Great didn't let anyone else write a liturgy format. (So Basil and Chrysostom were in competition?) Germans couldn't understand Latin, because they didn't live in Rome. It's weird that mediavals used actual numbers in desiging their church buildings rather than just making a simple corn cob hut. Oh yeah, and of course the world was considered flat (true!), and that this makes them all bigots. And the "bone church" in Prague is creepy and evil, because they have bones there.
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By the way, how did you find out, Count Comfect, how many posts each person has submitted in this thread? I bet it has something to do with the Find, but I've never understood very well how that works.
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I agree with Lief completely. Theology isn't a bunch of opinions, and saying so diminishes the scope of discussion. When you talk about theology, you're going to state your opinions, but you're also going to explain your beliefs, and cite facts.
I think this will be an interesting debate. So I'll throw a question out there, unless someone wants to restart the discussion from the end of the last thread. Now, I'm not picking on the Catholic Church, but I am curious as to why nuns can't practice Mass. One possible question of many to discuss.
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Not necessarily. "Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God" is a fact about the religion.
But you're right, some times opinions are presented as facts.
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BTW, nuns are not peculiar to the Catholic Church. The Orthodox have them as well, as do the Anglicans and some Lutherans; I understand that there is also a Presbyterian monastic community out there somewhere. Basically, any community which has any deep sense of continuity with the Christian church of ages past will have monastics.
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Welcome to the Moot Tuinor! It's awesome to welcome another person to the discussion. You'll find that adding a lot of paragraph breaks to your posts will make them easier to read: see, for example, Lief Erikson and Brownjenkins's excellent posts.
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Anyway, I was specifically asking about why Catholic nuns can't become ordained so that they may practice a Catholic mass. My mom went to Catholic school as a kid and had some very fine teachers who were nuns, one of whom she keeps in touch with to this day. But why are these wonderful women not allowed to be ordained? Because if they were allowed, I'm sure some nuns would persue this, and we would see them practicing Mass. Quote:
I like how there's two discussions going on at once in here. I hope we don't tread on each other.
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