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04-11-2004, 12:29 PM | #1 |
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Faith Healings
I was watching Ernest Angley on television today. For the uninformed, Ernest Angley is an evangelist/preacher with a television show/session that comes on from time to time in which he practices 'faith healing', where the physically ailing, injured or disabled come up onto the stage and he puts his hands on them/ sticks his fingers in their ears (in the case of the deaf) etc, does a prayer for healing from 'jesus' and then proceeds to bop them on the forhead, causing them to fall backward into the arms of ushers. He has some money shpeels where he encourages donations. My parents are extreme skeptics of the show, believing him to be blasphemous, and I am not sure. Are 'faith healers' hypnotists whose healing effects are a placebo effect? Or do you believe these people somehow actually have the ability to heal? Religious and nonreligious viewpoints appreciated. We noticed that his show was on at 11 am, when regular churchgoers would probably be at church.
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what were you doing at home on easter sunday!
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04-11-2004, 01:07 PM | #3 |
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You mean why wasn't I at church? I was. From 8:30 to like 11. The service is only an hour long but my parents talk....
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you know your thing is full right?
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haha no I did not. But it isn't anymore
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I didn't know what the messages thread was about. Sorry lol! I felt all lonely because you stopped pming me
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I thought you were bored of me! Oh Hector I am so glad we are back to PMing eachother! *running hug across big field expanse* Okay anyways does anyone have anything to say about FAITH HEALING?!
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Faith healing. Rubbish in my opinion. You cannot 'heal' someone with faith in a God that may not even exist. These people are suckers. Faith healers are just trying to make money, in my opinion they are scams most of the time. And the fact that the show is on at the time when most people are at church is saying something on it's own.
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I have had many other spiritual experiences that impact the physical realm, including encounters with angels and demons, fulfilled prophesies, and other things. So I know the spiritual experience and the miracle are real from personal experience.
I haven't seen any miraculous healings of that caliber, myself. I can be assured because of the reality of my own experiences that they are real. I have seen at least one miracle of I believe equal greatness to the miraculous healings you describe. Miracles exist. As far as this television show goes, I can't tell you. I am sure that some fakes do take place, and the devil also possesses power to grant healing. It might be real. |
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I believe that SOME people are healed by their faith.
Now what I have a hard time swallowing is that some one is running a TV show where it 'works' every time. By our faith in God, if it's his will he'll restore us, but not by getting bopped on the head . (are you sure he's not holding a stun-gun in that hand? ). |
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yeah all these healings on tv...just doesnt work for me. God doesnt want his miracles advertised like that I'm sure
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