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HP Vs. LoTR
first, maybe there are threads where i could have slipped this in, but I prefer to make a own post. I found this on a norwegian site, though they too just found it somewhere else. here ya go:
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I will make some thoughts and arguments later. Edit. Finaly I put it in a quote...
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12-20-2004, 02:14 PM | #2 |
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nothing but special effects and battle scenes? no PLOT??? You sure you read the LOTR books...?
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wow if i wasn't so lazy right now i could poke soooo many holes in every single argument in that article. but ill give a little summary:
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well i guessed that ended up being more than a little summary... btw i love the hp books too but i hate it when rapid fans try to say rowling wasnt influenced by tolkien and that lotr is dumb
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12-20-2004, 02:54 PM | #4 |
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This kind of thing is not only pointless, but it makes me sick to my stomach to read those "arguments." Although the author of that post claims to have read LotR, her comments show that if she has, she didn't "get it," or is simply unable to understand and appreciate a well-written story.
Again, I don't see the point of contrasting two very different books just because they happen to be classified in the same genre. Enjoying literature isn't a competition. |
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Pytt... maybe you should have put all that in a quote... it makes it look like it's your own words!
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I'm in danger of venturing back into the Silmarillion... more comfortable territory for me... (*ahem* duel at Tol-in-Gaurhoth *ahem*) Well... why are spells superior to mortal weapons? In LOTR, everyone doesn't have all sorts of crazy magic. In fact, I would venture to say that magic itself doesn't play that much of a part, unless your talking about the subtle forms practiced by the Elves, who wouldn't even consider their arts magic. And the Istari and Sauron... they're MAIAR! Quote:
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No background information? Ever read the Silmarillion? There's about 7000 years of background information. No characters who die for reasons? I'm tired of refuting all the ridiculous arguments of this alasaila quén. Especially to a bunch of Tolkien fans. btw... Pytt? Do you know where they found that?
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12-20-2004, 03:29 PM | #6 |
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One word: Etymologist.
That is all. I agree with what 'Zales said.
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Oh so this is the part where we rip it into tiny peices!
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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
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12-20-2004, 03:40 PM | #10 |
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What? Couldn't fit that with the other post?
Is there anything left to mention?
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12-20-2004, 03:47 PM | #11 |
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I was 76 charcters over!
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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
12-20-2004, 06:37 PM | #12 |
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Pytt, do you agree with this article?
I agree with azalea... and I think the only way you can say which is better, is in how much you enjoyed reading each. And I have the idea she was referring to LotR movies many times, not to the books...and as the first person in the other board said - ignore this person. |
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01-28-2005, 12:12 PM | #14 |
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You Do Have A Point But You Are Still Wrong
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Okay I might understand that you think hp is better than tolkien but It was recently discovered that rowlings copywrit alot of hp from a book wrote by a lady that did not sell so she was sued and lost In a court of law !
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I could spend hours and hours picking this apart until it turned into a little pile of splinters, but I'm not going to. All you need to do to make this 'argument' into an accurate statement is to switch the words 'LotR' and 'Harry Potter' around. Then, it would be much better.
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I not really fan of it but I think LotR is more awesome and I seconded HP.
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01-12-2011, 12:46 AM | #18 |
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Well...I rather vote for LotR, because it's the best book I've ever read since I was 8. My mom always read it to me before sleeping.
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01-17-2011, 01:33 AM | #19 |
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As this is LotR forums obviously LotR is favored.
IMHO: tFotR, tTT, tRotK > tPS, tCS tPoA, TGoF, tOotP, tHBP but tFotR, tTT, tRotK < tDH There that was relatively unbiased. Oh, and see if you can understand the acronyms. |
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