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10-22-2003, 11:29 PM | #1 |
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*Appendix Trivia*
OK - since they're booted out of the ROTK Trivia Thread, we geekier folk need a place to put these gems... anything from LOTR appendices, forwards, etc. First up:
Hobbit calendars start every year on a Saturday and end every year on a Friday, with every date always falling on the same day of the week (and have 12 months with a nice, tidy 30 days each). How do they do it? And since 52 weeks equal 364 days, what do they do with the 365th? And the 366th in "Leap years"??? This one: I'll let you look up! |
10-23-2003, 12:52 PM | #2 |
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Uh?
You don't seem to make sense. Could you explane it a little more |
10-24-2003, 04:19 AM | #3 |
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They had two days which were called Yule and two called Lithe. 1 Yule occurred before Afteryule 1 (first day of the year)and 2 Yule occurred after Foreyule 30 (last day of the year), 1 Lithe occurred after Forelithe 30 and 2 Lithe occurred before Afterlithe 1 (middle of the year). They also had a fifth named day called Midyears's Day which occurred between 1 Lithe and 2 Lithe. This made up a total of 365 days a year. For leap years they celebrated Overlithe, which occurred between Midyear's Day and 2 Lithe.
At the time of the War of the Ring - the Shire was 1,418 - 1,419 years old. This is my first post. Last edited by Ilúvatar : 10-24-2003 at 04:21 AM. |
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Illuvatar (wow - Illuvatar is a SAPLING? ),
You're knocking at the door. I guess my question was confusing - the MAIN thing I wanted to ask was - how did they keep each date the same day of the week, year after year? BTW - you mixed up the Yule days. 1 Yule is actually the LAST day of the year, and 2 Yule is the FIRST... counter-intuitive if you think in terms of years, but sensible if you think in terms of a yule-tide season itself! So... How DID they keep each date the same day of the week - year after year? Last edited by Valandil : 10-24-2003 at 01:03 PM. |
10-24-2003, 10:04 AM | #5 |
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Because the "extra" days didn't have a day of the week??
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10-24-2003, 12:54 PM | #6 |
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warmer... warmer.... hot, hot, HOT!
Which day/days? |
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Midyear's Day and Overlithe didn't fall on any corresponding day of the month. If this isn't what you mean, then I'm at a loss. I shouldn't have made the mistake on the 1 Yule and 2 Yule thing because the first month of the year is AFTERYule and the last month of the year is FOREyule. Last edited by Ilúvatar : 10-24-2003 at 02:58 PM. |
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OK, OK... I'll give it to you... but I was asking which one(s) did not have a WEEK day associated (Saturday, Sunday, Monday...) - those WERE Midyear's Day and (in Leap years) Overlithe. Technically, the Yule & Lithe days were not part of the 30-day months, yet each was on a weekday. Wonder if Hobbit ladies could propose to a man on the Overlithe - like we make allowance for "Leap Day"?
So... Iluvatar, it's yours... ask away. PS... in PoME, JRRT points out that none of the Hobbit months start with a Friday - and says that there was an idiomatic expression about something happening "On Friday the First" speaking of an event like pigs flying or trees walking. He says the fuller expression was "On Friday the First of Summerfilth" - a non-existent month... the Hobbit October was "Winterfilth" Last edited by Valandil : 10-31-2003 at 05:17 PM. |
10-30-2003, 04:42 PM | #9 |
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Sorry Valandil for taking so long to ask a question.
Here is my question. What is the age difference between Arwen and Aragorn when they get married? It's probably a pretty easy one though. |
10-31-2003, 07:17 AM | #10 |
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2690?
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10-31-2003, 05:24 PM | #12 |
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Who was the Numenorian king that tried to fix the actions of ten kings before him? (the actions were the revolt against the Valar and everything with it)
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10-31-2003, 05:47 PM | #13 |
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Tar-Palantir (Ar-Inziladun)?
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10-31-2003, 06:06 PM | #14 |
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Yup. Your turn.
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10-31-2003, 06:09 PM | #15 |
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Well, I'm terrible at trivia, so this is probably too easy.
How did the Palantir of Osgaliath come to be lost?
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11-03-2003, 11:17 PM | #16 |
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It fell into the River Anduin when much of Osgiliath was burned and destroyed during the Kin-Strife. The Gondorians were pretty sophisticated... but I guess they didn't have SCUBA!
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11-04-2003, 12:09 AM | #17 |
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Correct. (Makes you wonder why they didn't dredge for it. The thing must weigh a ton)
And what if Deagol and/or Smeagol had sailed down the Anduin on holiday and found it. Hmmmm. Imagine poor Smeagol having to lug that around
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OK... in a similar vein:
Who were the leaders of the two opposing factions in Gondor's Kin-Strife? |
11-04-2003, 09:50 AM | #19 |
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Eldacar vs. descendants of the kings?
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11-05-2003, 05:59 AM | #20 |
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Looking for a little more... there was a certain person who led the other faction.
And, btw... know who Eldacar was? |