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02-01-2003, 07:27 PM | #1 |
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Book Suggestions.....
I am finishing up reading Silmarillion and I was hoping to get some suggestions about what Tolkien work I should delve into next. I've read The Hobbit, LotR's and now Sil. I am leaning towards getting either HoMe or UT, but I am not sure if there are other better works out there that I should get first. I really don't know Little help?
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
02-01-2003, 07:44 PM | #2 |
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I'm reading the Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien right now. Very informative and interesting.
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02-01-2003, 07:57 PM | #3 |
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I haven't read HoME yet, but Unfinished Tales is very good. It explains a lot about the Istari, my personal favorite charcters.
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02-01-2003, 08:18 PM | #4 |
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Wizards are quite cool, indeed.
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02-01-2003, 09:23 PM | #5 |
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the HOME is sooo long but its worth it!
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02-01-2003, 10:51 PM | #6 |
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UT is a good start. It's in the same style as HoME, so you can gently ease your way into Christopher's babblings. Letters is also very informative.
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02-02-2003, 02:16 AM | #7 |
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I read UT after the Sil and it was great. Now I've started BoLT 1 (first of HoME series) and it's great too. I think it would be wise to read UT before HoME, though.
PS: I haven't read Letters so I can't recommend it, though I'm sure it's very good.
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02-02-2003, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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Unfinished Tales. I think it makes it easier to read tolkien's books in a particular order, which is pretty much the order of publication. So I think the order would be:
The Hobbit The Lord of the Rings The Silmarillion Unfinished Tales The HoMe series I of course don't have "Letters" but I would think they could fit in anywhere among the others.
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02-02-2003, 12:54 PM | #9 |
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Letters are problem better the more you've read because then you have more insight into Tolkien's creative process.
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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02-02-2003, 03:04 PM | #12 |
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I would suggest the Letters. REALLY cool, although they never delve into the question of the Balrog's wings...
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02-02-2003, 03:08 PM | #13 |
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Balrogs probably have wings (at least one of them). That's a fact, stated by Tolkien himself.
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02-02-2003, 03:30 PM | #14 |
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PLEASE! Let's not go there.
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From The Bridge of Khazad-Dûm, page 314:
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02-02-2003, 06:24 PM | #16 |
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LOL!! SGH loves this discussion, but fear her wrath!
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
02-02-2003, 08:27 PM | #17 |
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I would recommend reading unfininished tales after the sil and then the HoMe series. the HoMe books are rather choppy, due to some of tolkien's works being lost, incomplete, illegible
Unfinished tales is just an easier read and you would have more knowledge on things that will be mentioned in the HoMe books.
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02-09-2003, 05:56 PM | #18 |
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I just bought Unfinished Tales today, and it only cost me $7, you can't beat that!
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
03-21-2003, 03:46 PM | #19 |
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I thought this would be the best place to ask this:
In the Silm forum, I'm assigned to do ch. 16, "Of Maeglin." Now that I've finally finished The Silm, I wondered if any of the HoME series has any peripheral info on Maeglin or the matters surrounding that story, so I can go ahead and read that so as to be prepared when my time comes. If so, which one(s)? any info or suggestions would be appreciated. (I plan to read UT and Letters next, but wanted to go ahead and find out about that first.) |
03-21-2003, 03:53 PM | #20 |
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HoME 11, 'The War of the Jewels', has a chapter named 'Maeglin'.
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