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07-19-2007, 06:55 PM | #1 |
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Holy War in Pakistan
Since the Red Mosque in Pakistan was destroyed a week ago in a battle between Islamist militants and Pakistani soldiers, violence has exploded in Pakistan, particularly in the northwest. Over a hundred soldiers have been killed in a series of attacks that have been primarily suicide bombings. It's the latest expansion of the War on Terror, I guess one could say. But it is particularly worrisome that Pakistan is experiencing this growing internal unrest, seeing as it's a nuclear armed country directly adjacent to Afghanistan and Pakistan's traditional enemy India.
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07-19-2007, 10:59 PM | #2 | |
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07-20-2007, 12:38 AM | #3 |
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I disagree with some of your facts, but I don't really feel like getting into another history debate right now, so I hope you don't mind if I just don't respond on that. The most important point is that none of what you said contradicts what I said. Extremism does exist in Pakistan and, as you point out quite correctly, it has a history there. That extremism's presence is tied to violence in Pakistan's past, I absolutely agree. Confronting it is also part of the War on Terror, as I was saying. Our claims aren't mutually exclusive.
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07-20-2007, 01:02 AM | #4 |
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....isn't holy war an oxymoron?
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07-20-2007, 10:25 AM | #5 |
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I'd say that the inflamation of extremism is a direct result of our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Violence breeds violence.
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That is way too cliche...
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07-20-2007, 04:24 PM | #7 | |
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07-22-2007, 05:34 AM | #8 | |
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Afghanistan? I'd say that the violence there (other than the usual tribal violence they've been indulging in for thousands of years) is a direct result of the Russian invasion, which led to the growth of the mujahideen, which led to the warlords, which led to the Taliban, who were sheltering people who actually attacked America, and who refused to give them up.
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07-20-2007, 10:43 PM | #11 |
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No. Being religious and being holy are not the same thing. Holiness being compatible with war is iffy under any circumstances, but I think that these days, with the sheer destructive capacity we command, they are essentially mutually exclusive.
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07-22-2007, 05:29 AM | #12 | |
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Or do you mean Pakistan has been the aggressee?
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