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Parallel
Just realized an interesting parallel which was created by Peter Jackson's changes in the 'Flight to the Ford' scene.
Think of that scene in comparison with Eowyn facing the Witch King. In the two scenes, we have the two major heroines, both facing down the Witch King, with drawn sword, in defense of a 'fallen' and wounded hero. Interesting that although Arwen might be considered more powerful, Eowyn was the one who gained the ultimate triumph over the WK. OTOH, Arwen was truly facing all 9. Discuss...?? ![]()
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one thing that did hit me about jackson's portral... which some have viewed negatively as making arwen a kind of 'sheena'
![]() arwen had absolutely no intention of actually facing the nazgul... she was goading them into the river, so she could cast her 'spell'... so while it took a good deal of bravery on her part, i wouldn't quite put it at the same level as eowyn's physical battle with the witch king arwen had an ace-in-the-hole... whereas, eowyn must have expected sure death and was willing to sacrifice herself purely to uphold family honor
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Yes, though I can see where Valandil's coming from; it seems as if PJ may have taken Eowyn as the role model for this face-off. I thought it worked pretty well as a dramatic thing, though would probably have preferred to have seen Frodo defying the Witch-King to the last, not to mention Glorfindel "revealed in his wrath". oo-er
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Oh, Glorfindel ... *swoon*
Yes, Frodo defying the Witch King at the Ford would have been marvellous to see (if it was done right) - that's one of the best scenes in the book, IMHO.
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At the risk of violating the book-movie separation thing:
YEAH, BABY! Frodo defying the wraiths would have been so much better than that sappy sob-story redition with a lady of immortal grace lowered to riding through mud and bemoaning a moaning hobbit who bears little resemblance (in that moment) to his predecessor. But, back on track: Interesting parallel indeed. I think Tolkien could have been a director with his knack for drama, as displayed in the scene with Eowyn and the Witch King. Drawing on that to create, for all intents and purposes, a scene boardering on parody (if one can consider duplicating moments in the same story as parody), is indeed quite interesting. Do I sound vindictive in this post? I'm sorry. I do like the movies, I just seem to be in a bad mood and I don't know why.
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