05-25-2004, 06:27 AM | #1 |
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Ruinel has left the building
Ok... seems people didn't get my last message about the ban, or they just didn't understand it. So, I'm going to repeat it here so that everyone understands.
Sister Golden Hair has banned me for life. That would be a permanent ban. I can no longer post at this board, nor can I receive your PMs or contact any of you here unless I create a new account or use Annonymous, which I'm not willing to do except for this post. You can not receive me with open arms when I return, because I am not allowed to return. You can not wait out my punishment, because there is no end to said punishment. Do not try to contact me through PM, because I can not read your messages any longer. At this time, I am politely requesting an admin to change my title to "banned for life" or "permanently banned" so that it is made more clear to the members that I am not allowed to return. I asked SGH to post an announcement or make my ban more clear, but she refuses to do that. I, personally, can't remember a member being banned for life during my time at the 'Moot, so I can understand the confusion that people have over this issue. Creating the Buster account was not meant to defy SGH, nor disrespect the staff of Entmoot. I was posting on the day that my ban was supposed to be lifted (per SGH's e-mail). (I'd say more, but my chances of keeping this thread from being deleted might be better if I don't.) This was my only alternative to making people understand my permanent ban. I'm sure SGH will be fuming about me violating the permanent ban and claim, again, that I am posting to defy her ban. This is not the case at all, but I hope that she will understand that I needed to clarify the situation. There are no ill intentions in this post. I do not intent to circumvent her authority or anything else she's going to e-mail me in caps. It has been nice posting with the vast majority of you. I hope to see you all on another message board. I hope you all receive better treatment here than me. Sincerely yours, Ruinel the Elf with no self-control |
05-25-2004, 06:47 AM | #2 |
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Sorry to see you go, Ru. The board will be duller without you. Hope you have grand trip to Europe and Buster ashn't forgotten you when you get back.
Why did you get banned anyway? I can't see any evidence of why in other threads. It seems a bit heavy handed to me. Wot no rehabilitation? It would be good to know what you did that was so bad that others can avoid it in future |
05-25-2004, 06:48 AM | #3 |
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Take care Ruinel. I for one thought it was nice posting with you too and I'll miss your posts. Hope you'll lurk around.
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05-25-2004, 07:25 AM | #4 | |
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Ruinel, I'll miss ya posts lots, my initial Corrupter.
Since she can't post, I'll clear up any confusion as to why she's gone: The Nazi Germany comment in this thread is what she says she got banned for the first time. This is her side of it: Quote:
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05-25-2004, 07:33 AM | #5 |
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Ruinel, I'll miss you so badly! I really hope you'll be able to come back after a while. If any at all should be banned for life here, I disagree that it should be you. I hope it is allowed to say so much.
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05-25-2004, 07:40 AM | #6 |
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FIGHT THE POWER, RUINEL i suggest living as Anonymous, see if they dare ban It ... like most people who seem to leave, i havent actually spoken to them at all, but i have read enough of Ruinels posts for me to safely say she had some worthwhile things to say, and well if she got banned for her views, well good on her, so did Jesus... Nicely done anyway, Banned for Life, thats a fair achievment... could i ask someone who knows why she got banned for what seemingly (i only read what Lin posted) was a pretty small thing
if i was to ever leave, i would hope a Revolution be sparked immediately and i would be treated with reverence and so on. As my parting message ill just say, dont worry Ruinel they all crawled back to Jesus in the end
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05-25-2004, 08:05 AM | #7 |
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Silly Rui didn't realise how much she would be missed. She wants you all to know that she's still lurking ..."reading their nice posts.." and also that she's really touched "that they have nice things to say... I wasn't really sad about leaving the 'Moot before, but now that I see the people that will miss me..."
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05-25-2004, 08:20 AM | #8 |
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Lin - ask her to email me please - if she wants to keep her e-address private, she can set up a hotmail account for the purpose.
Thanks
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05-25-2004, 09:24 AM | #9 |
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Ruinel, that's very saddening. You'll be missed. I didn't think you'd ever leave... Are you sure it's for life? It doesn't sound like SGH... to ban lsomeone for life because of this small thing you did. Hope you'll come back somehow, sometime in the future...
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05-25-2004, 09:43 AM | #10 |
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Ruinel, you were one of the first person I got to know when I first started to get active here. Really sad to see you go. You'll be missed, I can promise you that...
Well, good luck. Hope you'll be back, some day.
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05-25-2004, 10:31 AM | #11 |
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Well, if someone like Ruinel can get banned for life, all I can say is I must be in the wrong kind of place.
So long, folks, it's been good to knowya. Colour me gone.
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05-25-2004, 11:03 AM | #12 |
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Well, I'm sorry you're going GM because your contributions are always good.
Are we going to get an explanation of this banning? |
05-25-2004, 11:09 AM | #13 | |
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05-25-2004, 11:25 AM | #14 |
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I'm sorry to see your going Ruinel. You'll be missed. I know I never spoke to you much - maybe a few times in the Teacup - but I enjoyed it.
I hope that you'll return to us some day.
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05-25-2004, 11:32 AM | #15 | |
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She had a weekend ban for a variety of infractions: flaming, going off topic, critising mod decisions in open forum, and ignoring issued warnings. The ban went into effect Friday, and would have been lifted on Monday. On Monday, Ruinel came to Entmoot under a new account called "buster." Contrary to what her reasoning behind creating the new account was, she never PMd me as she said that's what it was for. She then was posting in the "soldier abuse" thread. So, at what point was she planning to send this PM? After I banned the "buster account, I began receiving very abrupt emails from her. She then proceeded to create yet another account under the name of "Tree Hugger." She revealed her identity in PM to another member who promptly relayed the information to me. At that time, I removed the "Tree Hugger" account. She then began posting on the Ano account, which is what she is doing now. Now, you tell me that that is not a blatant defiance of moderating authority. After I banned the "buster account" I extended her ban for 48 more hours. Didn't realize it would push her over the edge. Then she created the "Tree Hugger account" and that is when she was issued the permanent ban, which throughout all the cursing in the emails, she continued to push my hand in that direction, leaving me no other alternative. Where do you suggest I draw the line, EVER? And so here we are.
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05-25-2004, 11:37 AM | #16 |
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Good grief.
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05-25-2004, 11:47 AM | #17 |
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Thanks for taking the time to explain your side of events.
At the end of the day, it's up to you how you deal with it. However, I'm surprised that you think this merits a life ban. I've seen her posts, and I can see now that some of them may have referred to events "off-screen" as it were. Perhaps these things took on a different when seen from your point of view, in the light of your email exchange. However, no-one else got it so that's why we're baffled. It sounds to me like she's been punished for stuff that happened off this board. |
05-25-2004, 11:55 AM | #18 | |
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05-25-2004, 12:11 PM | #19 |
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Btw, FYI, Fenir Lac_Danan was banned almost at the same time and for similar violations as Ruinel. I also discussed his ban with him in email. He quite graciously accepted his punishment and his ban has now expired. Too bad Ruinel's ban couldn't have gone as smoothly. If it had, we would not be having this discussion right now.
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05-25-2004, 12:18 PM | #20 |
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Hey Ru, email me sometime!
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